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Discussion in '360/430' started by maurimotor, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. maurimotor

    maurimotor Rookie

    Jun 7, 2012
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    Good afternoon. A month ago I changed clutch and thrust bearing to an F430. After this, they have traveled 100 km without any problem. After this, it was parked for 3 days and now is where the problem comes from. When I start it, I notice that the gearbox fault light comes on, I make a diagnosis and I get P1742 gear selection position sensor failure. I checked all the wiring, I tried to do self-learning. When I manage to do it, I go out to work on the car, and at 5 kms the same error comes back to me. I'm almost sure that he was able to catch air in the circuit, so I do not know whether to disassemble the actuator to purge or not. Can you give me any advice? Thank you and excuse so extensive text.
     
  2. RedTaxi

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    Take it back to whoever (hopefully a Ferrari specialist) that did the clutch job on it
     
  3. F-Serge

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    I gather from the OP's message that he is the mechanic that did this job for a client.
     
  4. Virulosity

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    Doesn't make sense to me that air in the lines would cause your problem. It is a sensor failure. Inspect the wiring and connectors that may have been pulled on when the transmission was pushed aside to install the clutch.
     
  5. RedTaxi

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    Not sure, as the OP said, "I'm almost sure he was able to catch air in the circuit"?
     
  6. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian F1 World Champ
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    Did you replace the sensor during the clutch job?
     
  7. brookliner7

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    How did he catch air in the circuit?

    And why couldn't the sensor fail as the code indicates?
     
  8. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    At first, I thought her was the mechanic. BUT English is clearly a second language; but he speaks it better than I speak pretty much ANY other language. That means you can't read too much into the tenses. He is either the mechanic OR he did the work himself. It isn't clear. It also isn't clear if he has an SD or the like so who knows what is really happening.
     
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  9. maurimotor

    maurimotor Rookie

    Jun 7, 2012
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    Sorry for my translation. My English is not very good. I have done the work in my workshop. It is very possible that when emptying the fluid reservoir F1 air has entered. I have disassembled the actuator and I will proceed to purge the circuit and thus take the opportunity to change it. The diagnosis I have is AUTEL, which works pretty well with Ferrari. The connections have already been revised several times, and the fact is that position sensors always measure, but they are not calibrated, and it does not let me do self-learning. As soon as I purge the circuit, I tell you how the matter is going. Thank you so much for the comments.
     
  10. maurimotor

    maurimotor Rookie

    Jun 7, 2012
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    Good evening, guys.

    Fault found! Defective selection position sensor.

    After dismantling the actuator and purging, everything remained the same. So I went back to check the installation already in this case from the TCU. I checked the voltage values, which in the two sensors were correct (5 V), and then proceeded to check the output. In the case of the gear sensor the value was correct (2.49 V), and in the case of the selection sensor it was 0 V. I simulated the correct voltage to check that I could erase the error, and it was.
    I have checked all the wiring to the same sensor and the cable is fine, the sensor has no signs of bumps, but the case is that there is no output.
    So I'm going to replace the sensor kit and I hope this is solved, unless someone sees that this is not the clear fault and makes me think it could be something else. I see it clearly.

    If someone has someone who wants to sell me for not using it, it would be appreciated, but I will opt for those of SCUDERIA.

    Thanks again to everyone and I apologize again for my translations.
     
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