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  1. F40

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  4. Tyler

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    Agree with others that a pump shotgun makes excellent home defense.

    I prefer:

    1)Large Dogs
    2)Assorted weapons stashed in every room(keep a gun in the fridge too, nice if you're surprised while cooking).
    3)I'm not fond of home security cameras, I don't need an electronic witness who might counter my version of events.
     
  5. MarkPDX

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    Don't forget to keep one in the bathroom in case you get caught with your pants down.:D
     
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  7. enjoythemusic

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    Wax,

    i dunno about that. How about just keeping a few Jehovah Witnesses in the house holding stacks of literature. If THAT doesn't scare them away, then nothing will ;)

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  8. Texas Forever

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    Good one. I remember during my hippie days that a bunch of Jehovah types came a knocking just as we were, uh, having our first, ah, peace pipe of the day. Yeah, that's what it was, a peace pipe. Remember the scene in Fast Times at Ridgemont High where the smoke came rolling out of the VW bus? Well, that's kinda how it went. They knocked on the door which, because it didn't have a lock, swung open and the smoke came pouring out. They looked at us. We looked at them. They asked us if we had found Jesus. We said that we didn't now that he was lost, but that we'd keep an eyeball open for him. They said praise the lord, and we said don't bogart that joint, ah, I mean peace pipe.

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    The other Darth and I have it covered over here......
     
  10. WFO_Racer

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    Sure is, put a hot load in it and you will take out a small army with one shot. Great flash effect at night.
     
  11. WFO_Racer

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    True enough that's why after 20 years of Martial Arts I still love hand to hand , nothing more satisfying than hitting flesh. Thank God my aunt is a judge here in the Republik Of Kalifornia she has been a valuable asset. I have a Waco like collection only because I don't want to be like the whiners who complain that they can't have such and such gun because they got banned here. Buy it now and don't worry about it later.
     
  12. randall

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    A pump shotgun and motion detector in my living room that turns on my bedroom light. If someone breaks in I want to be able to catch them and deal with the problem so they never do it again. Maybe if I was made of money I wouldn't care so much about losing my stuff, but for now I think anyone breaking into a house should be executed.
     
  13. Artherd

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    I do some civillian security consulting in addition to my other lines of work. Most of the details are kept hush-hush for very good reasons. However.

    There is a discernted advantage to being able to see in complete darkness at nearly any range...

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    An early-warning system, with threat level assesment, and a rapid and capable responce are the cornerstones.

    That can be anything from a dog and a pump-action, to 'use your imagination'.
     
  14. Prugna 328

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    no way she can miss with a shotgun?

    Terribly false. I have more than 25 years experience with shotguns and this is one great huge misconception. At 7-10 yards a 12ga. with 00buck keeps all 9 .33 cal. pellets in apx the size of a basketball. So at 5 yds or so the shot pattern is even smaller. Mix this in with the TV/movie influence shoot from the hip style and it becomes very easy to "blow the shot" by placing that grapefruit size group right over the bad guys sholder. However in the movies you see all the time 1 shotgun blast and 6 people go down.
     
  15. TestShoot

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    Nothing like racking a mossberg at 2am, usually I hear "I am just here leaving you some vcrs i found nextdoor" coming through the wall. The burglers tend to make deposits rather than withdrawls.

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    You need small dogs, big dogs tear into them too fast, it is less sporting that way.
     
  16. TestShoot

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    the rack of a shotgun is a great psych weapon, but it is better to learn how to handle CQB (Close quarters battle) ie some form of empty hand self defence because when you wake up and the adrenaline kicks in you will not be thinking too clearly. froggy is right you'll probably hurt yourself. DEVGRU?

    remember you know your home better than the 'visitor' use this to your advantage to evade and escape. sucks to have your stuff taken, but leave the recovery to the professionals. if they are personal and going for you, you got big problems.

    casual attitudes towards weapons make for accidents. attitudes that gun make your life complete, without extensive training, you are just playing cowboy.
     
  17. Artherd

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    Frogman- good post, and thought I know you indicate it as part of a total security strategy, I want to be sure that people living in 'good' neighborhoods don't forget that it's only part of the solution.

    All it does is stack the odds a little more in your favor, it is not any kind of guarentee.

    Poly Klass was kidnaped and murdered, less than a mile from the house I grew up in (All $600k+ homes in a north bay area town of 50,000people with no appricable crime level what so ever.)

    It CAN happen anywhere, at any time, to anyone.

    Personal security is an ongoing responsability, not an over-nite easy-fix.

    PS: Blackwater is absolutely top notch.
     
  18. Uberpower

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    This dog is the best protection for my house. Docile with my son, and rabid with everyone else... including door to door salesmen.

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  19. BJS

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    While the pump-action sound may scare off an intruder, as someone else pointed out, the gun cannot wake you up.

    A preferred bone-chillin' sound would be Fluffie the dog in full turf-protection mode. :)
     
  20. TestShoot

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    that is one FUGLY dog

    my malamute would howl if something was awry. he is really big and would show his teeth, but not really that great at personal protection, too darn friendly of a breed.
     
  21. davem

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    Very true! Years ago i had two Malamutes. Very intimidating due to its size, but unless it could lick you to death, you would be safe. Now if a dog barked at the female, the male would go ballistic!!
     
  22. Slim

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    There's a sticker on my kitchen window (faces the street) that says "You loot, I shoot". It was there when we moved in and we left it...don't have any guns though. I'm not against them, just don't want to deal with them with small kids in the house and no need for them in this neighborhood.
     

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