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How will Ferrari 812 GTS hold its value?

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  1. nimamd

    nimamd Karting

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    Do you think it will hold its value well or even it may appreciate in value above the MSRP as probably the last NA V12 convertible? or it will depreciate significantly as the 812 SF?
    Your opinions?
     
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  3. kansas488

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    My guess is it will depreciate like the regular 812 does. The 812 GTS will be great and I can't wait for mine, but it is not a numbered/limited edition. So there will undoubtedly be many made. Plus I just don't feel like mainstream (wealthy) folks desire front engine cars anymore. Everyone wants mid(rear) engine. Again, I don't care (and I do love mid-rear engine too). I love my 812 SF like I loved my F12. The engine sounds so great, especially revs in neutral at a stoplight :). So for me, it is just another great V12 and there aren't a lot of open top V12s to choose from. But I am definitely expecting to lose money if/when I tire of it.
     
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  4. uhn2000

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    Very well said.. and good analysis on the mid-engine craze.
     
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  5. Solid State

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    If this is a big consideration for you on whether to purchase this vehicle than I would advise against it. Its highly unlikely any production Ferrari holds its value now. Buy it for the emotion or pass.
     
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  6. nimamd

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    Merci beaucoup! Thank you so much for your inputs.
     
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  8. MDEL

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    How present Ferrari models will depreciate in the future is impossible to say with exactitude. However, looking at the evolution of previous models depreciation perhaps can help to show a tendency.


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  9. carz80am

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    It will depreciate The only one that won't or may go above msrp will be the gto or whatever the special edition is called.
     
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    #8 leopoldo, Mar 9, 2020
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    It will depreciate ... the non special GTS v12 ,even numbered , are not very high in value even today ( 550 barchetta or 575 super America except some special such as 599 sa ) moreover is not like a pista spider that has been sold only by factory invitation and in few units ( 700/800) . Everybody can buy an 812 gts. The 812 sf today are sold in Europe around 240/250k , the one with higher price are still there .....
     
  11. colonels

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    that chart shows the first 3 years only. in my opinion the 458 is the least depreciated car of the bunch over 6+ years whereas the california is the most at well over 50%. F12 is right in the middle.
     
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  13. Caeruleus11

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    Thank you Mario as always you put in the work for us. But I do agree with @colonels about the time frame criticism as well as you have to consider there is a new marketing program at work now. So I don't think past performance will be exactly indicative of future results. However, its like @Solid State says- buy what you love (and can afford).
     
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    If you do this, you can/will never get "hurt."
     
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  15. ChipG

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    How old is this list? F12's have dropped a lot more than 3% in the last 3 years, I'd say closer to 30%
     
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  16. LVP488

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    I think the numbers are for the first 3 years - being released in 2012 the F12 passed the 3 years mark in 2015, right when there was a speculative bubble on all used Ferrari. It probably distorts the result at this point of observation.
     
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  17. MDEL

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    Jerry I also agree with the time frame criticism referred by @colonels because the first three years of depreciation only tell a tiny part of the story. In this case I just reproduced a chart that was compiled by a serious publication. There is another entity named Drive foundry that made an interesting depreciation analysis in the UK for some Ferrari models during longer periods of time. If you interested in reading the article the link is https://drivefoundry.com/buying-guides/ferrari-a-guide-to-depreciation/
    For the ones not interested in the article below I post the charts that show the long term depreciation in the UK for the models F430-F1, 458 spider and California.



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  18. ttforcefed

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    Haha those ff numbers are wrong - way worse. 355s stayed at msrp for a long time
     
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  19. IloveGT

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    I agree. Something is off with the table. How can California and FF depreciate so little!?
     
  20. Bamsefar

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    I would say FF is down 50% after three years st least.

    Well that was before Corona and the current economic happenings, today I do not think any cars are traded....
     
  21. montpellier

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    The current UK depreciation is far worse than those numbers. Delivery miles 812 loses 20 % , a 2.5 year old Lusso 50 % . Ferrari is now a different situation and far from the gentle depreciation of a few years back. GTS, people say it will be better, based on what, it is hard to say. 812 sold over list for first delivery cars and GTS will probably do the same. But give it 12 months, when all the people try to dump it for either the new VS 812 or to cover their coupe losses. It should be better than coupe in depreciation terms as there will be fewer, however for some, it is not a super attractive car and within the cabin, roof up, it is very snug (I know it is opinions) plus any V12 from any car maker is a niche in the market. So agree with above sentiments, if you get a GTS, get it for what it is, but eyes wide open if you plan to sell after 2 years. It will still be cheaper than a divorce .
     
  22. Scraggy

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    I suspect the depreciation above are way off as they don’t properly account for optional extras.
     
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    1,000 likes!!!!!!!
     
  24. ChipG

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    57.58% of all stats are made up
     
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  25. day355

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    Sadly exellent :D
     
  26. colonels

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    the convertible v12 is something of a first for ferrari in 50 years so it may hold value better. if they had done it on the F12 i would be all in but i simply can't stand the 812 design. it looks twisted and unbalanced.
     
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  27. Il Co-Pilota

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    To the initial question. Does it matter? I'm sure it will be stellar to drive, so value will be great. The more you drive it, the better value.
     
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