I thought Pantera's were more $ ?

Seems like a pretty reasonable number for a "pseudo-exotic".....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/De-Tomaso-Pantera_W0QQitemZ4635095128QQcategoryZ6472QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

An average condition Pantera will normally sell in the mid 20's. I have a feeling this car will go up quite a bit berore the end of the bid.

Darrell.

 

Seems way to cheap. I suspect something major... Blown engine perhaps.

 

agree

think its more what Darrell said, although....

looks like mine except for the bumpers...

 

Seems too cheap. What is up with the approved bidder requirement?
Nobody puts the Buy it now only $200 higher than the opening bid.

Everything is being done to encourage a sight unseen purchase.

If it passes a PPI it would be a screaming deal at $9400.

email the seller and tell him you want to view the car.
Lets see what his response is.

 

C'mon guys. Wake up! This is the oldest scam on ebay.

Contact the guy to be put on the preapproved bidder's list, and I'll give you 100 to 1 that he starts hitting you up to send him the money through either Western Union, or some crooked escrow company, located in a third world country.

Whatever he says, he'll do it in very poor english.

 

yeah, that seems too cheap

I like the GT5S though, sweet car, nothing psuedo exotic about that

 

I've sent the e-mail to be added to the buyer's list. I'll let everyone know what happens.

FWIW, I'm not going into this blindly. I've seen every scam out there. I also work for a company that sells a few things on ebay (username: grapevinehill)

M.

 

That price is a steal. If I wasnt so busy, I would go check that car out.

 

When something is too good to be true, its usually not. That "buy it now" price is just plain crazy, something wrong somewhere.
Steve

 

SCAM! Run away.

 

*sigh*

Please read my post above. IT IS THE OLDEST EBAY SCAM IN THE BOOK!

No more "wow that's cheap" comments need to be made. It's a SCAM, and not a very good one at that.

 

And why in the world would the price go up before the end of the bid?? The "buy it now" is at 9400. Of course, I would imagine there are people around here who would bid an item higher than it's buy it now price.

 

Here ya go guys.

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thnx john for checking and posting and warning us, I didn't know...

 

That car was also "flagged" on the Pantera International forums as a scam. Like was said...... WAY too low. (Heck, they are getting low 30's for ones in need of a good amount of work..........etc).

 

panteras are rad cads and have always interested me. i will own one before too long!!!

 

Just remember, if there is a "preapproved bidder's list" with a "buy it now"....It is almost certainly a scam.

 

Not anymore. The past year or two have seen a noticeable rise in values. I'm seeing average Panteras go for low 30s. The nice ones--40's. Really nice ones--50's and 60's.

All it would take is to have a movie like Gone in 60 Seconds to feature a Pantera like they did the Shelby GT500, and the values would really jump.

 

wow! I haven't been following P prices, they've def gone up.

 

i'm glad most owners cherish these cars as the are way too cool to leave to become iron oxide. these cars often get over restored and modded and thus go from great cars to real monster gt's capable of blowing nearly anything into the weeds!!!

and the look hot!

i wil probably buy a car that some crazy pantera owner has dumped 100k or more into for less than 60k. that will be a value and no doubt a really great updated panther!

 

tried to keep mine close to stock....
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i love it!

al please explain to me the wheel differences i have seen. some panteras seem to have wheels that better fill out the wheel wells...and some look like they need wider wheels. is there a year that they made a change in widths?

 

The original Campagnolo wheels are what you see on Al's car there. There are many versoins of these wheels, mostly dealing with slot arrangement, but one thing they all have in common--very small by today's standards. Hard to get tires for too. If you see original photographs from back in the day, you'll see the tires look tall and skinny. That was what was available then. I have 15's on the front of mine ,and 16's on the back. These are wheels from the early 90's and even now I have difficultly with tire selection. Seventeen-inchers are in the future.
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Not anymore. The past year or two have seen a noticeable rise in values. I'm seeing average Panteras go for low 30s. The nice ones--40's. Really nice ones--50's and 60's.


Here is Southern CA. an average car is still available in the mid 20's. Now your right, if it's restored or really clean, price goes up real quick. Someone mentioned buying a car an owner put 100k into for 60-70. Thats the only way to do it. They come up for sale fairly often. I think right now they are a relative bargain, especially concidering thier performance, and great looks.

Darrell.