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  1. rolindsay

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    #1 rolindsay, Jul 15, 2009
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    I will soon be (re)starting my '79 308GTB's interior restoration. The car is in great shape but just needs to be freshened up. Specifically, I would like your advice on which upholstery adhesive you would recommend to re-cement down the edges of the leather and/or vinyl where they are lifting from the fiberglass substrate. The generic stuff I have used in the past just can withstand the heat of a car's interior. Advice? -rick
     
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    Typical professional glue we use for corporate aircraft is 3M 1357 and 1300L. I think 1357 is for spray while 1300L is for brush application.

    Jeff
     
  6. Jdubbya

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    I used Weldwood on mine, it's holding up just fine. It was recommended by the upholstery shop that did all my work.
     
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    I used Weldwood too. Works awesome, and if you sniff it for very long, you can begin to hear and even see the Jethro Tull concert from 1972. Just a side benefit.
     
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    Yup....Welwood. Its a neoprene based cement, and that is the key. Why? Cuz is resists heat better than other types without breaking down. It is the choice also (and related) to restoration of convertible tops too, and if it will withstand a top's heat/uv ray intensity, it will do well interiorly (a word?)
     
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    Yup Weldwood is good, only I started hearing the Anita Briant concert from 68.
     
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    Reminds me of experiences with "Aircraft Stripper". Emmit Rhodes' "Fresh as a Daisy" comes to mind.

    BTW, while on the theme of noxious chemicals; They sell a variant of Aircraft Stripper that is badged "Low Odor". If you should wonder what they removed to make it low odor, I can tell you. They removed the stuff that strips paint! Low Odor Aircraft Stripper is useless.
     
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    I tried to make sure the garage door was open when using the weldwood but it still can leave you feeling pretty good. What was worse was the POR 15 paint I used in the trunk area. Imagine being bent over inside that small space with a brush full of that stuff for awhile!! I kind of floated back into the house!
     
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    Try orange limonene, it smells like organges and works great.
     
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    When choosing an adhesive you will likely use something different between the vinyl and the leather portions. In a 308 the ONLY factory leather are the seats and surface of the door skins. Everything else is vinyl. It is important to know this because you need an adhesive that is resistant to 'plasticizers'. These are oils that permeate out of vinyl and is used to make it supple and flexible. Unfortunatly these plasticizers attack most glues that are not specifically designed to work with them. That said I researched and used 3M Spray 80 to great success on my 308 interior. I am not saying that Spray 80 is the only choice however the plasticizer thing is important to ensure a good and lasting adhesion. Good luck with the project
     
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    I think they used to call that a "bad trip". Hope you're okay!

    That stuff is THE KING of noxiousness (just made that word up. Must be the Weldwood talking!) The POR15 and paints like that are crazy smelly. I'm waiting for the headline, "POR 15 Employees All Claim They've Been to Mars".
     
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    John,

    Weldwood makes a few different glues, some for carpentry. Which glue did you use?
     
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    I just used the original contact cement. Like I mentioned the upholstery shop recommended this and it is what he uses. He thins it and sprays it but I just rolled or brushed it on right out of the can.

    This stuff here..... http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=46&SubcatID=8
     
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    I bought a quart of the same glue from Orchard Supply Hardware for $11.50 but haven't used it yet. Do you have to wait 15 minutes before gluing them together?
     

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