Is it time for gun control in Washington?

Jacinda Ahern is receiving universal love for her new gun laws, but no mention in the media of recent history, the "guess who?" below being of course Winston Peters, the populist who props up her minority government.

"Well, well, well - better late that never PM Jacinda Adern. She's been given a free pass by the media - for unknown reasons - over having blocked gun legislation at the first reading on 5th September 2018 which would have prevented the gunman accessing his weapons. He was apparently a registered owner so his weapons would have been the first to go. Why does the media continue to give this woman a free pass from legitimate criticism? NZ Labour and the Greens blocked the "Firearms Prohibition Orders Amendment Act 2018", on 5/9/2018, by 64 votes to 56 - under guess who's instructions?"

 

Not quite: https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20180905_20180905_23

Proposed by Chris Bishop (Nat) not supported by Ron Mark (NZ First) supported in principle, but not as written - due to the 'search without warrant' provisions, by David Clark (Lab) who supported a 'more solid work' by Police Minister Stuart Nash (Lab). Final vote 56 yes (all Nat) 64 no (whole parliament excluding Nats).

Your mate Winston could have put the vote the other way (9 members).

 

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

If the numbers are good it because of our good work

If the numbers are bad it because of someone else

If we think we can fudge the numbers and get away with it, then we can make a case to support any argument we want

Some people believe everything they read


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My engine isn’t ready yet

 

Yeah right, they can't even protect the school kids from getting shot ..... great ****ing govt, but I love to visit it

Has anyone claimed Charlton Heston's gun yet ??

 

That because guns aren't allowed in school zones, John. Dang those bad guys for breaking the law. I mean, how could they dare to bring a gun to a no gun zone! There are laws against that kind of behavior.

 

And now some of the idiot Democrats are saying “someone” must have “gotten to” Mueller.
You have to laugh.

But the good news is, as long as they keep acting the way they are, Trump will be a shoe-in for another term.

 

Sorry Rod, it's already a lost cause, too many guns now in the community

Draconian laws would need to be implemented and that ain't ever gunna happen in such a gun nut country

IF, I ran the US I'd only allow cops and military to have guns and a very few heavily vetted citizens who can be called upon by farmers to shoot livestock that need to be put down.

Outside that group you get an immediate MASSIVE fine for first offense and then hello to the big house

Sports shooting ?

F*** 'em, go find another "sport" ....

Hunters ?

Heard of the supermarket (hello RobL , I'm looking at you )

Seriously, you cannot come up with a valid argument other than you like them (oh wait, the govt may go rogue )

I was in the military (ok ok , just washing planes thanks Wes) and learnt to respect the fire power and how to handle correctly but I saw NO need for guns of any kind for any reason ,,,,,, but my flame proof suit is in the cleaners so go easy

 

The history of the US was founded on guns. We fought for our independence from a tyrannical government and the framers of the Declaration of Independence wisely saw the need for the 2nd Amendment due to gun confiscation from almost everyone but the government. Look at all other mass atrocities committed by governments. Easy to control the people when you have superior force.

I am not saying this government is going to go roque. My concern is that if we give up our 2nd amendment rights, my grand children or great grand children might have a horrible situation where they are unable to defend themselves against said roque government. For this very reason, no country should ever sign away a right for any reason.

Unfortunately, there is no simple answer to a complicated problem.

 

Yep

Our govts have been rogue for decades and yet we feel no need to have military rifles but on rockets advise I'm off to Kmart to get a semi

 

You're such a quitter. There's no harm in trying

 

you already do !!!!!!

you're a Trumpeter