Over the past twenty five years or so, the mid engined V8 Ferrari has been the 'sports car' and the front engined V12 has been the 'grand tourer'. Hence each model complemented each other. But... Ferrari has progressed to the point where both the F12 and 458 handle like amazing, tossable sports cars. And, the F12 is a 'front mid engined' car. It's almost as if the case for a 458 over an F12 (for obvious reasons other than price and open top driving) is now moot. F12 (and the 812 following it) is THE Ferrari road car. While the 550, 575 and 599 were big comfy GTs, the F12 is very much a sports car. Now it is almost as if the F12 is just the next level up. I guess the point of this thread is just to note that as far as their practical application, the gap between the F12 and 458 has narrowed. Thoughts?