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lets vote! best wax/sealant

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by 355f, Dec 23, 2003.

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best wax/sealant

  1. zymol

  2. Klasse

  3. Crystal

  4. other???

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  1. 355f

    355f Formula Junior

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    Many posts on the best wax/sealants what do you think are the best all things considered!
     
  2. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    Few others that maybe worth including;

    Meguiar's
    P21S
    Swissol

    .My vote will be Meguiar's.
     
  3. BWS550

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    ZYMOL ITALIA OR ZYMOL CONCOURSE
     
  4. JaguarXJ6

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    P21S or Zaino.

    If forced to use something else, that would be Pinnacle Souvereign, Meguiar's Gold Class or Mother's Carnuba Cleaner. For white or silver cars, Pinnacle's paste wax.

    Here's my extensive write up on how to use these products.
    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2620

    Sunny
     
  5. Greg G

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    3M Imperial Hand Glaze followed-up with Gliptone Carnauba paste.
     
  6. Mojo

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    Hands down.
     
  7. Dom

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    The wax/sealant that you use makes little difference to the finish. First and foremost is paint preparation.

    On a properly prepared car, just about any wax/sealant will look good, and I challenge that most people (>95%) would not be able to tell the difference between one or another.

    I have been using Mother's Reflections, and been happy. Have also used Zaino, Zymol, S100, Klasse. All made the car look good.

    What's best for me may not be what's best for you. I am happy with Mother's Reflections because it is very easy to put on, and lasts a while.

    Dom
     
  8. JaguarXJ6

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    Dom is correct. Preparation is the thing that most people do not do prior and is the biggest investment a person can make to keeping a spectacular paint finish.

    However, coming from a Concours background myself, once you have the preperation "down," there is most certainly a big difference between the products with their own strengths and weaknesses. Cost, ease of application, durability, gloss, depth, reflectivity (and clarity), elemental/UV resistance, availability, temperature, and technique to best apply it.

    The stronger your vision "perscription" gets, the more these differences become important and thats the purpose of this thread!
     
  9. peterp

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    P21S -- should be two separate polls for waxes and polymers since most people fall into one camp or the other. For wax, very good results can be achieved with Mothers Clay, followed by P21S cleaner, followed by 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, followed by P21S wax.
     
  10. JaguarXJ6

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    Are we related?

    :D
     
  11. thecarreaper

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    meguiars world class, works exeptionally well on red and black cars. i use clay first and then the wax.ill post a "after " pic if i can find one.
     
  12. 96impalaSS

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    Meguiar's gold class or zaino.
     
  13. Dom

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    Sunny,

    I sort of agree with you, but with a slight difference. As I said above, most people (>95% IMO) would not be able to tell the difference between Zaino and Zymol (or insert other favorite here).

    I find it extremely difficult to tell the difference sometimes, even when I try comparing on the same car, but 2 panels done with a different wax.

    Now, If I was a pro and trying to win a concours, I would be able to discern these differences. But most of the common folk would not be able to tell a difference, and would only note that it looks good.

    If I get a chance one of these days, I will try to do a hood 1/2 with Mother's reflections, and 1/2 with something else and take my car to crystal cove and let others judge if there is a difference.

    Dom
     
  14. thecarreaper

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    sorry if these "offend" any purists.if you can ignore the fact these are not ferrari, but have ORIGINAL almost 30 year old paint, then you can get the point i am trying to make. if clay and this meguiars world class wax can make these look this nice, just think how nice a 20 plus year old ferrari will look with original paint!!!
    1) 1970 Z28 11,600 original miles, (4 speed) cranberry red no less!
     
  15. f355spider

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    This is kind of like "who makes the best motor oil?" or "Who makes the best car?" You'll many different answers...some good, some bad.....
     
  16. thecarreaper

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    red paint and black paint in general are harder to keep up. they will oxidize quickly, a black car is very unforgiving when it comes to swirl marks from improper washing and waxing, buffers on black cars require more skill than any other color with the exception of candy-pearl clear coats. again sorry for the non fcar pic. here is a 1976 black ta with 31,622 miles notice the even shine and reflection. this also is acryllic laquer based ORIGINAL paint.
     
  17. funshipone

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    Mequiar's simple and easy.
     
  18. Welsh

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    S100

    If you live in Texas, I highly recommend ScottWax

    http://www.scottwax.com/

    He does an AMAZING job.

    This guy is more or less a god on autopia :)

    He uses S100
     
  19. TCM

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    There is no such thing as the best wax/sealant. Each has their own pros and cons. If you want durability and shine, a sealant should be your choice, but if you want depth of color and paint clarity go with a carnuaba. I have had extensive use with both Crystal Guard and Zymol and must admit they are both great, but one is not better then the other. They each fill their own niche very well.
     
  20. scott63

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  21. 134282

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    Thomas Wax is pretty cool... :D
     
  22. richard

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    Voted Zaino. Why isn't it on the list, it scored tops when some company had that wax test last year...
     
  23. rob lay

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    Zaino by far the best IMHO.
     
  24. Soon avalible to the public Meguiars NXT
    Meguiars Polymer #20
    Klasse AIO+SG
    Poorboys EX
    Platnium UPP
    Blackfire
    Zaino
     
  25. JaguarXJ6

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    The test was funded with their own money and they bought the products off the shelf. Unline magazine tests, there was no way for manufacturers to slip them a special batch.

    Eye opening. I strongly recommend reading it if you do your own washing/detailing. Or at least give you the questions to ask your detailer or wash shop... *shiver*
     

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