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  1. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/278776/LEWIS-GETS-OFF-IN-LIARGATE.html

    Lucky champ to escape race ban


    ESCAPING PUNISHMENT - Lewis Hamilton

    From IAN GORDON in Manila, 25/04/2009

    LEWIS HAMILTON is set to get off scot free this week over his role in Formula One's Liargate scandal.

    Britain's world champion is likely to escape a personal punishment, even though Red Bull boss Christian Horner insists Hamilton's McLaren team should have the book thrown at them.


    McLaren have to answer FIVE charges that they lied to race stewards at the Australian Grand Prix when they face the FIA's World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Wednesday.

    Apology
    But team chief Martin Whitmarsh has thrown himself at the mercy of chiefs by making an unreserved apology after Hamilton was told to tell fibs to try to get an extra point.


    Whitmarsh has also been in talks with FIA representative Alan Donnelly in Bahrain.


    They claim the actions taken since the lie was exposed - including the sacking of sporting director Dave Ryan and Ron Dennis' resignation - should soften any punishment.


    McLaren, who were fined £50million and kicked out of the constructors' championship 18 months ago for spying on Ferrari, hope they escape with another fine.

    Points
    The WMSC could also dock points or ban them for two races. But a highly-placed pit-lane source said: "It is all up to McLaren now. If they go into the meeting contrite and hold their hands up then they could get off.


    "But if they go to Paris trying to defend themselves like they did over Ferrarigate it will not be good for them."



    FURIOUS - Red Bull boss Christian Horner wants the book thrown at McLarenHorner insists the WMSC will have to consider a two-race ban, ruling McLaren out of next month's Monaco Grand Prix.


    He said: "If you are in front of the stewards, you have to tell the truth.


    "The evidence against them was quite damning. The team have put themselves in this position so they have to be prepared to meet the consequences.

    Shame
    "It would be a shame to lose a team for a couple of races but there has to be a penalty for lying to the stewards."


    Team chief Whitmarsh wrote to FIA president Max Mosley last week to "unreservedly apologise" for attempting to mislead stewards and get Toyota's Jarno Trulli stripped of third place.


    Whitmarsh also sent a second letter, detailing the non-confrontational approach it is expected to take on Wednesday. He admits he has had "dark thoughts" since taking over as team principal on March 1.


    Whitmarsh said: "We are co-operating with the FIA and it is for WMSC to decide what action should be taken.

    Dark
    "You have moments of dark thoughts. We've had a range of disappointments and dealing with those has been tough. I have been open and said that I have considered what I should be doing with my future.


    "We have got to do a better job in all departments. It is clear McLaren have not always done everything right."


    Hamilton, 24, who qualified fifth in Bahrain behind pole-setter Jarno Trulli, might not appear at the hearing.


    He said: "We've had some tough times in 2007 and 2008 but this year is really hard. It's hard on everyone in the team, hard on family, hard on friends.


    "It affects your personal life but you can't dwell on it. You have to rise above it and try to learn from it. It's been the toughest period of my life."
     
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  3. RP

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    Horner makes a good point, McLaren and Hamilton needed their definition of right and wrong adjusted. For the sake of the sport, any more punishments would be futile.
     
  4. AlexO91

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    All i can say is Mclaren do it to themselves.
     
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    Since the meeting has yet to happen and there is no official verdict isn't this just yet more speculation in one of England's less salubrious rags and not worthy of its own thread let alone such a dishonest inaccurate headline
     
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    +1 For those not familiar with it, the NotW is roughly as reliable as the National Enquirer here in the States. [See: Mad Max's law suit against 'em etc]

    And the headline is just plain wrong - The pooh-bahs may yet throw the proverbial book at him.... I don't believe they will (he's too important) but we all know they're crazy, so who knows - Certainly not a hack from that rag.

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  8. LightGuy

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    I think many have come to the realization that it is the Kangaroo Court which is "on trial" here in the open minded public's eyes.
    LH's/Mclarens punnishment must fit the crime. Anything else is just a witch hunt.

    Of course I will have to endure "Mcheaters and Mcliars" for the forseable future from those who refuse to drop the pitchforks.

    Better than Mclosers.

    PS; I back Williams.
     
  9. 8-Ball

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    Wasn't it decided a while ago that Lewis himself wouldn't face any further penalty, and the charges are just against McLaren as a team? (Obviously if the team are banned then he's effectively punished as well).

    Personally I think a long, but suspended, ban would be best. That way there's no immediate impact on the sport unless McLaren misbehave again.
     
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    +1 End of the day Mclaren pulled out the gun and shot it's self straight through there own fat foot.

    Those spouting for judgement day are pure sour self opinionated biased bigot's.


    The same folk think slap happy Max and Bernie are honest LMAO.
     
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    McLaren seems to realize that the best they can do is to don the sackcloth and ashes and throw themselves at the mercy of the FIA.
    They've offered up two sacrificial lambs and their best hope is to keep Lewis' championship bid viable.
    My Grassy Knoll scenario; After being allowed to contest the championships this year they bring out the new double diffuser car that they've kept under wraps and Lewis smokes everyone for the rest of the year.
     
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  13. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ha ha I think your right...if you can't beat em join em...:)
     
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    #11 jk0001, Apr 29, 2009
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    Damn if the articial was not right..... You heard it first here!
     
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    Pretty hard to drop the pitchforks when they keep bouncing off the ground. It wont be long before Mclaren and or Lewis step on the pitchfork again. The question is not when but how.
     
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    But with Ron Dennis gone, they might be extra careful for the next 12 months. They'll still cheat, but they'll cheat as much as every other team does - in smaller doses and very carefully.
     
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    Since the word is out on them now, the Stewards, Tech and everyone will have them under the microscope. Any screwup will be noted and delt with. It would make interesting reading in Hamiltons biography. I wonder if it happened to any other driver or team if the fine would have been so light.
     
  18. kraftwerk

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    The spot light was already on them, that was part of the problem under the SC fear of getting it wrong, nothing has changed in that department, only RD leaving.
     
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    If you think the spot light was on them before now they are under a magnifying glass. Its not going to be pretty. Its like pissing off the police, it causes real bad karma.
     
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    I think LH will come within a whisker of another WDC this year.... so hang around Jimbo...;)
     
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    I'm not going any where. It just hope that LH does not follow the path of Mike Tyson, once you think you can get away with anything, usually thing go stray. That does not mean that I would not love to have them as my neighbors. I'll be their pool boy at either of their houses. :D :D Nothing is better than a good train wreck.
     
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    Pool boy!...yeh right, only so you could clock Nicole Scherzinger in a bikini..;)
     
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    If I'm the pool boy, I can always use an assistant! :D
    expecially since now she is going solo and leaving the band.
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    Stop it Steve.
    You know how I hate it when we agree:)
    IMVHO McLaren have the ability to turn things around faster than anyone else in F1.
    Unlike the boys from Maranello, when things go bad they don't go "operatic" in Woking.
     
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    #22 kraftwerk, Apr 29, 2009
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    LOL true. Dave can we also agree the new BrawnGP wet set up will not get passed by the FIA..;)
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    That is what they need in China
     
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    Why wouldn't it? The barge boards look a tad big but I'm sure they conform to the letter of the law;)
     
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    It has an enclosed cockpit, and not open wheel.... it could be a LMP1/2 but the outboard would mess up with the diffuser :D
     

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