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  1. vinuneuro

    vinuneuro F1 Rookie

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    Even better when it breaks on some cars (eg. RB kers, Alonso and MS DRS.) ;)
     
  2. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    I am surprised Pirelli is playing along... How is it good for Pirelli's reputation to make tires that are such crap???
     
  3. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

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    The crap tires are by design, oddly enough.
     
  4. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Indeed.

    Plus I'm not sure I would call the Pirellis crap: The other way of looking at it is, that they generate an insane amount of grip for a given number of laps. A bit like a rocket stage, that produces thrust until it is spent, then suddenly goes to zero. You could say to engineer and manufacture such a behavior into a tire is actually an accomplishment by itself.

    It is now down to the teams to figure out how to best use these tires. I'm sure that'll happen eventually and a lot of the drama will go away as teams will bring in the cars before the drop off in adhesion.
     
  5. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ Owner Project Master

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    Which for some reason no one did correctly today except nico's first stop pf course.
     
  6. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Yup.

    It'll be interesting to see how fast the teams will learn. There is a chance it might go on for an entire season as each track is different. Fun times. :)
     
  7. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Not sure if it's such a bad thing. No one would go and say ''I'm getting me some of those Pirelli P Zero's, because they use them in F1 all the time, and look how much grip your car will have!''. No one is that stupid.

    No wait. What am I saying...85% of the worlds population is retarded! Pirelli is DOOMED!

    (not aimed at you ;))
     
  8. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Pretty funny reading this thread, 80% of the comments where basically saying that F1 was doomed :D
     
  9. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    We go through that every year. F1 is doomed every year. Ferrari pulls out of F1 every year. blablabla

    And in the end each season is more exciting than the previous one and Ferrari adds another year to their 60+ year tradition. Bravo!
     
  10. Etcetera

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    Well, prior to the start of last season, I predicted it would be a bore due to no refueling. The problem with trying to divine the future from reading tea leaves is because...one is just looking at tea leaves while trying to pull a prediction out of their arse.
     
  11. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    What fun is it to predict normalcy and sunshine? :D
     
  12. william

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    Exactly!!

    What image is that going to give Pirelli?
    Would I buy their tyres now?

    Obviously they play to that FIA silly scenario to get the tyre contract, but in the long run, it's going to turn into negative advertising for them.
     
  13. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    I have to agree. Unless they're the reason for winning it doesn't matter to the average fan how much they improve the "racing".
     
  14. tifosi12

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    It'd be nice for a change if the doomsday believers for once would look at the track record of F1. It has been around for so long for a reason. And Ferrari has been in it since the inception for a reason too.
     
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    Couldn't agree more but an important part of the Ferrari F1 tradition is the high (and low) opera ;)
     
  16. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    True. And I can't blame the audience if one of its tenors (LdM) sings the "Arrivederci" part every season.
     
  17. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Another part of the "Tradition" ;)
     
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    The only thing I was skeptical about was the DRS...but that was partly because I didn't read into how or when it was allowed to be used, lol.
     
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    I predicted mayhem with DRS and was dead wrong ;)
     
  20. TifosiUSA

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    I go back and forth on whether or not I like it. I would have liked to see more genuine dueling than a car simply picking up 10 MPH and blowing by the car in front when they have little ability to defend.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    The drivers got used to it quickly in Practice in Australia but as Alonso showed this weekend there are bugs in it. If the wing should open mid-corner it could get dangerous.
     
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    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    While I can imagine that I think the risk is not that big: 10 mph might put them in the guardrail but not in a fatal way.

    Loosing a wheel is a lot more dangerous. TR seems to do that every season. Last year Buemi with both and Alguersuari today with one
     
  23. TifosiUSA

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    Such as in Turn 8 3 weeks from now? Haha you'd be in the trap quicker than quick
     
  24. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Which brings another thought.
    Shouldn't off track excursions be more costly? On most tracks a driver can run wide, regain the track and proceed with a minimal loss of time. I realize the importance of large run-off areas for the sake of safety but regaining the track shouldn't be so easy.
     
  25. TifosiUSA

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    People have been complaining awhile about this...the sport is "too safe"
     

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