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Martin Brundle just unleashed on F1

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  1. ktu

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    Not true
     
  2. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    You're right. There was the exception when Mercedes wanted Rosberg to win.
     
  3. 375+

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    Please no P & R in the F1 forum.
     
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  4. ktu

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    LOL
     
  5. TheMayor

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    I like Ike! :)
     
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  6. 375+

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    Dead presidents are always welcome!
     
  7. TheMayor

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    When they are printed on green paper.
     
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  8. DF1

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    With many zeros :)
     
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  9. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Bottas clutch had an algorithm anomally.
    That ain't racing.
     
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  10. Bas

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  11. ktu

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    If Ham had the clutch issue, he wouldn't get a pass on Fchat
     
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  12. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    Actually thought the same thing after reading 20 % of his rant. Nothing different from what the Usual Suspects have opined for countless years. I believe we all knew what was on the horizon when Merc bought/brought everyone good outside of Adrian to the team. Once they had the combination to curtail premature tire evacuation, it was over. ;)
     
  13. SimCity3

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    But he would on MercChat ;)
     
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  14. WPOZZZ

    WPOZZZ F1 Veteran

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    If a journo like Brundle can see it, why can't the FIA? I mean, they have ex-racers on board, like Brundle. Or does FIA really stand for Fingers in Arse.

    On top of that, with what Brundle said about Ferrari, does no one in the team see the same thing, and discuss it with the boss?
     
  15. CRG125

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    Its interesting, I have an invite to the Canadian Grandprix with one of the teams and I am on the fence about going. My son and I have a race that weekend which I prefer instead.
     
  16. Mitch Alsup

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    1 Engine (probably 3.0 litre V<any> 20K rev limit; lasts 5 races)
    1 Engine ECU program for the whole year
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    1 rear wing element,
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    Everybody refuels using the same gasoline tanker
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    maximum wheelbase = 100 inches
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  17. WPOZZZ

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    What day is your race? If it is Saturday, you can fly out after your race, then go to the GP.
     
  18. TonyL

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    Tend to agree with everything you have said, I don't watch F1 anymore since normal TV stopped broadcasting, simply refuse to pay Sky F1 for poor racing after watching 40 years of F1

    I have said it before and say it again, until the FIA change the rules on testing nobody will catch Mercedes let alone overtake them. If you look at the facts in 2012 (V8) Mercedes won 1 race, 2013 (V8) they won 3 times, 2014 (V6) they won 16 races. That wasn't due to Hamilton brilliance by any stretch of the imagination, he is good but not that good.

    In my opinion they forsake early victories in the preceeding years and developed the car, a lot of that credit must go to Michael Schumacher. Vettel is not a development driver and Leclerc certainly isn't I fear.

    SF are doing the best they have and lets face it are much better than red bull (so far anyway)

    The only way, as proved many times in F1 history, a team that dominates has found a radical / quantum leap in their design concept and outwitted the others. Strict rules now limit this dramatically.

    SF will possibly only win one or two races this year on the fast circuits like Silverstone, unfortunately I also fear panic will set in and they will loose their way entirely!!!!

    Tony
     
  19. Bas

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    Fully agree
     
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  20. Bas

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    The FIA is run via committee. Every single decision takes forever. And I do mean forever. FIA/F1 have to be run like a dictatorship. Preferably by someone that has brains and understands that sport is entertainment foremost
     
  21. DF1

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    Nothing reports to me a win will soon arrive for Ferrari
     
  22. Bas

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    And I don't really care...they've made their own mess and frankly, do not really deserve a win.
     
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  23. DeSoto

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    OK, someone has to play devil´s advocate, so I suppose I´ll have to do it.

    The engines are complex and sound like crap, but all the manufacturers (except probably Ferrari) wanted the downsized hybrid stuff, so, unless a grid of 20 Cosworths and 2 Ferraris is OK for you, we need to listen to the manufacturers. The current Formula can´t be changed either: FIA asked for suggestions from people interested in getting in, but nobody wanted, so you can´t piss the current manufacturers after forcing them to break the piggy bank.

    The cars are too complex, too aero, etc... Well, they have been like that since... when? Late seventies? Once I saw a documentary about the 1979 season called "Car Wars" (Star Wars frenzy back then). Unfortunately it isn´t in Youtube anymore. In the film they interviewed James Hunt and Lauda and both said that they decided to retire because with the ground effect cars, the driver couldn´t make a difference anymore. "Coincidentally", both drivers´ 1979 season sucked big time.

    Back in 2016, some said that the cars were not spectacular and too slow, so they changed them: now they´re wider, fatter tyres, bigger wings, etc... Of course, wider cars, more grip and bigger wings make overtaking more difficult. A shoot in the foot. I remember that back in 2016 Vettel said in an interview that "maybe more downforce is not a great idea" and the comments of the article were "shut up, you sissy, you´re scared of fast cars". Maybe he was right after all.

    Mercedes is winning too much... Well, I´m gonna tell you one thing: probably nobody here hates them more than me. For me it represents everything that it´s wrong in motorsport: big company resprays car, extorts FIA, drops an insane ammount of money = instant success. They made the regs "á la carte", they got the tires they wanted and the tokens system gave them a two or three years head start. But do you know what? We´re into the sixth year of the hybrid era: Ferrari had some chances and wasted them, and Red Bull has been milking the excuse of the engines not built by themselves but that they´re given for free, so maybe they should STFU. Right now, I don´t want the Formula to change. I want to see Mercedes beaten at their own game.

    And anyway: when have you seen a good race at Barcelona?
     
  24. 375+

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    Premature evacuation? I think there's a pill for that.
     
  25. freshmeat

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    The sound, vibrations, the smells are all part of the spectacle. This past weekend @ Laguna Seca, Ferrari Racing Days ran Corse Clienti F1 cars and my god, all the fond memories of f1 came rushing back instantly. They weren't even racing anyone, just lapping around but I couldn't walk away; I just watched and listened as the 2 cars rumbled by over and over again.

    No ear plugs, not sun glasses, totally unfiltered joy captivated my senses...icing on the cake were the FxxK evo lapping sessions that followed right after...just utter epicness, visually and acoustically.
     

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