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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  3. Kram

    Kram Formula Junior

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    At a wild guess, 350/400 BHP, and more if you keep the starter running!
     
  4. Tspringer

    Tspringer F1 Veteran

    Apr 11, 2002
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    My guess?

    190bhp.


    When you going to share actual results????




    Terry
     
  5. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The engine is so massive we have to reduce the fuel and water lines from the dyno to fit so we won't be running until tomorrow. I think a bit less.

    Best
     
  6. ArtS

    ArtS F1 Veteran
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    If its stock I'd guess 140 - 145 (maybe a little less). If you're over 130, she's ready to go!

    Hope all goes well tomorrow Jim.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
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  8. andrewg

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    I'll go 148, but only if you take the towel off the intakes first
     
  9. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    That sucker's soaked in rocket fuel how else we going to get above 140???
     
  10. andrewg

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    Nitrous and some of those fancy spark plugs with 3 or 4 electrodes :D

    Engine looks great Jim, a credit to you and your team
     
  11. 330 4HL

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    for you re: this years targa florio.

    perhaps you could email me or suggest a thread where we can converse?

    I own a 64 330. love the car; don't care for the public image too much.

    cheers
     
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  13. shaughnessy

    shaughnessy Formula 3
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    My guess is 120@6000
     
  14. ArtS

    ArtS F1 Veteran
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    Welcome aboard!

    To communicate directly with Jim, send him a PM (left click his name and options will appear).

    For everything else related to 330 road cars go to www.tomyang.net

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  15. ArtS

    ArtS F1 Veteran
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    Tom S.,

    Why do you think it will peak at 6000rpm? Because it's fresh or just the nature of the motor?

    Art S.
     
  16. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Hi

    As Art said PM me.

    Best
     
  17. judge4re

    judge4re F1 World Champ

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    132 hp at 6k.
     
  18. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  19. Enzo

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    I will say about 116hp
     
  20. CMY

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    I guess I'll take 118.. ;)
     
  21. dretceterini

    dretceterini F1 Veteran

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    I'll guess 126 hp @ 6200 rpm
     
  22. 4CamGT

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    If its a basically stock two liter with 8.5:1 compression it will probably only make 92hp. if you ran it on 1940's fuel (81 octane) probably less.

    Freeman
     
  23. JonBrent

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    122.

    Are you going to run it with it sitting on the oil pan, or actually use the engine mounts? I know the torque isn't huge, but.....

    Looks beautiful!
     
  24. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    We hadn't finished fuel/water adapters at that point and done final hook up.

    As I like to run a 150 shot of NOS we're going to bolt her down...
     
  25. JonBrent

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    Oh good - I'd hate for it to go tumbling...

    NOS? Heh, I'd like to see that!

    What break in procedure are you planning? Do you start gently with a motor from this era?
     
  26. Smiles

    Smiles Moderator
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    È quello tradizionale?
     
  27. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    We've been spinning it for a while. We fully rebuilt it after the head gasket gave up at the top of Mt Etna.
     
  28. Michael Muller

    Michael Muller Formula Junior

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    The original late 1947 / early 1948 166 engine should be in the range of 120 HP, or 10-15 % more by SAE ratings. As far I know these early engines didn't use the Vandervell "Thin Wall" bearings already, the deal was made only later, think early 1949 or so.
    If the engine has been rebuilt with modern components it may rev considerably higher than in 1948, ratings of 140 (DIN) resp. 160 (SAE) would not surprise me.
     

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