Merged: 0117 S - This Week's Barn Find

wow, Guy, you work fast! and it looks correct as well.
I think we received the new Scaglietti badge as a gift from a restorer friend. If anyone has the correct badge it would be Parker Hall at Kilimanjaro Designs
940 Warrenton Rd.
Vicksburg, MS 39180
(601) 638-7856

also try www.black-barts.com

 

Bart is a great guy, but as far as I am aware, he only sells repros, not originals, and he doesn't list a Scaglietti badge on his website....

 

Stuart - check out badges FD/8 and FD/8VT on that site (under the Ferrari section). As to whether repro or not, I have no idea; never got anything from there.

 

From what I understand he uses the original suppliers/molds/ and materials so while not NOS they are very similar to NOS.

 

hi, i still may have other photos, saluti

 

Signore Lo Coco, you have a private message.
Guy

 

Bart's stuff is made by the same companies that did the originals. I do not know why it is the case that some badges aren't identical to those done "in period". I did not notice FD/8 and FD/8VT

 

Bryan, please find the answer of Barths.
Can I place one or two badge(left and right)on the car ??
Thanks.
Guy


"Dear Guy,
The FD/8/VT badge is in stock. They are made by the same company that made them originally, from the same tools.
The cost is $140.76 each, plus shipping. Send me an address and I can quote shipping.
Black Bart's Emporium
105 Myrtlewood Point Road
East Palatka, FL, 32131
If you have a problem, please contact me immediately so that we can resolve the matter to our
mutual satisfaction.
Thank you again.
Regards,
Bart
Badges & Emblems for Italian cars
www.blk-barts.com
1-800-473-0078
386-325-1122 fax/phone"

 

one badge each side, Guy

 

Bryan,
thank you very much for the Scaglietti badges , whom I commanded to Barts.
I am going to re-make the inside of the cockpit of 121LM: I plan to put a dressing in imitation leather behind both seats and to cover the tunnel of the transmission with the "velour" (of the same color).I have The pics of the 0052M MASSINI barn find and it will be the same thing !! I want not to make a mistake.
Can too say to me if the rope to open the car door is leather or in cord ? Would have you a photo ?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I send you photos of the progress of the restoration, SOON.
goodbye.
Guy

 

Guy - when we got the car in 1960, it did not have such a cord. That's not to say that it did not have one originally, but it is not apparent where the front end of the cord would have attached. I can't imagine that the door would have been opened very much since entry/exit was usually made like this . . . .

this race was about 4 weeks after the Castelotti first in class at the GP of Venezuela. Notice the yellow band arount the front wheel to help differentiate the front wheels from the rears since there was only a .5" difference in tire size from front to rear.
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Bryan,
Thank you very much for these explanations and this very beautiful photo of 446MD, taken in Nassau.
Concerning the rope, I am again going to think about it.
That I have to make for the central tunnel of it limp with speed, I have to cover it with skai (imitation leather) or in tissues ?
I also plan to put skai behind the seats, what do you think about this ?
Guy

 

Guy, to my knowledge, no Scaglietti-bodied 500 Mondial or 750 Monza had upholstery on anything except for the seats, the headrest, and a narrow band of vinyl at the very top edge of the cockpit (covering the rivets attaching the body sheet metal to the steel tube supporting it). Everything else in the cockpit was un-upholstered metal

 

I agree!

 

Guy - this may be the earliest shot we have of the car showing the door open. As you can see, there is no pull cord - this was taken when the car was about 18 months old at Nassau '56. It is dark blue in this picture, the color Rubirosa painted it for Sebring '56 where he waon first in the 2-liter class.
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Dear Bryan and Dretcerini,
Thank you to help me in my step of authenticity.
First: the door will not have a cord.
Second:I have found on the car old fragments of vinyl fixed to the steel tube supporting the body behind the seats; I think it is "the narrow band of vinyl of the very top edge of the cockpit" ?
Third : I'll be obliged to put an upholstery to recovered the central channel between both seats,because the patches of aluminium are too much news.
117S is actualy to the coachbuilder and it come back home the next-week.
Guy

 

Bryan,
I am looking for a cellulosic vernish, can I buy one kilo. in USA ? It is forbiden in France.
Best regards.
Guy
PS: Bart don't answer me for the two Scaglietti badges ??? I don't understand.

 

A week again ??????? it's so long for us guy.......-)))))))))


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Do you want me to telephone Bart for you? I know him 30 years or more! He is more of an Alfa than Ferrari guy, like me....

 

Imagine that you'll find out that the body is like the last surviving LM body in the world, would it be an option to contact Ferrari with that information an discuss the option to rebuild the rest of the car underneath the body. (I've no idea if Ferrari would consider it)

And as for the Chassis I can imagine that it would not be difficult to re-create the "original" 195.

If the above mentioned 2 scenarios would work you could make a tremendous amount of money I suppose.

 

...and turn a wonderful car into two fakes!

 

Its hard to turn a fake into a fake, the car is as it is not a monza nor a 195. I dont know what I would do...

 

Marcel - your first post to start this thread indicates that the rebody was done at Scaglietti in '56. Do you think that would qualify as an "authorized rebody" as far as IAC/PFA is concerned? The engine would still be a problem . . . still a great driver and display car.