MERGED: Fiorano Track times for various cars

More lap times.

Ferrari F2002 0.57.476
Maserati Trofeo 1.23.848
Ferrari Enzo Ferrari 1.25.30 (Suspicious due to earlier stated 1.23.30)

Ciao
Peter

 

Those 575 M times are without the F-pack right? Has anyone got times with. I'd really like to see the difference.
Thanks.

 

Anyone else that have Fiorano lap times to add to the list?

Ciao
Peter

 

Great Post. Thank you, Very Interesting!!!!

 

I've been serching for those datas for sometime now. You guys are great.

 

definately a cool post I have often wondered myself about how the supercars (288,F40,F50, enzo) stacked up against each other on Fiorano.
Thanks

 

From Atlas.
World Champion Michael Schumacher broke, for the second consecutive day, the Fiorano track record as he concluded Ferrari's first test of their new F2004 car.

The German driver clocked a best lap of 55.999 to lower the track record by almost three tenths of a second following yesterday's time (56.279). It was the first time that Fiorano was lapped in less than 56 seconds.

Ciao
Peter

 

as much as I remember there were changes done to the track when Shumaher came on board, so the times before 98 shouldn't count

 

Does anyone have some 550GT or 575 GTC lap times to be added to the Fiorano track record list?

Thanks

 

Wait... So the 360 Modena and the F40 both got the same time?! That doesn't sound right, I thought the F40 would beat it by alot.

 

I'm curious as to how accurate the above list is of all of the cars. Fiorano has changed and been repaved several times, and with the difference in tires, and drivers, using this to determine which car is faster is very specualtive. Unless you could specify what configuration, what time, and what type of driver was driving, these figures can be misleading.

At the French Quarter Classic, we have a few professional drivers acting as instructors (at least one modern F1 driver attending), and driving and teaching us mortals. Talk about a performance difference! You have absolutely NO IDEA how fast your car is until an F1 driver takes you around the track.

Eric Van De Poele, (former F1, former Bentley team driver) took turns driving our cars, and it was amazing what a pro can do with your car. Even to us regular club racing drivers, it was like this guy could take your car to the moon.

Our track in New Orleans is very similar in length and turns to Fiorano. A full on GT2 Porsche race car , with a semi-pro driver set the former closed car track record at a 1:17. My time in a 355 with slicks, 1:35. Eric's time in a stock 360 challenge was a 1:15!!

In a 333SP, he did a 1:06. (He took passangers too!!) I missed his time in an F40, but he was going insanely fast. Wish I had a timer!

A F1 caliber driver, on a good lap, on the edge, with a proper set up and tires, can be miles ahead of another car. Its really difficult to judge. To give you an idea Eric VDP set a 1:06 in a 333SP at our event in 2001. In 2003, Anthony Lazzaro, managed only a 1:10 is a similar 333SP. He later did a 1:11 in the Risi Comp. 360GT, wihch won the championship last year.

Even amoung professionals, alot depends on set up, tires, and how hard the driver is pushing.

To give you another example, a few years ago a friend of mine bought an F50 and an F50GT1 and tested them back to back (It was reported in Forza several years ago) He hired hot-shoe D. Theyes as an instructor. He drove both cars around Willow Springs, and only clocked 2 seconds a lap faster in the GT1. Does that mean the GT1, with slicks, is only 2 seconds faster, as FORZA reported. No. He wasn't pushing as hard.

So its very difficult to say.

In New Olreans this year we are going to have an F1 driver drive some of our cars back to back and do a real test.

I'm tempted to invite someone with a Gallardo, and let an F1 driver take out the Stradale and Gallardo, and test them back to back, and put an end to this debate once and for all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

360 challenge 1,21.00
333sp with restrictors 1,13.00
360 gt 1,17.00
maserati trofeo 1,25.00
355 1,24.4

 

Yes, I know this has been discussed several times, but I HAVE searched the archives for following, without sucess:

612
430

and ALL models BEFORE 355....starting with the first opening back in 1971.

Please, any information would be appeciated,

Thanks,
Anders

This is all I have, and as you see, many are missing:

0'56"33 F2003-GA (2003, MS)
0'58"38 F2002 (2002, MS)
0'59"00 F1 310B (1997, MS)
1'00"31 F1 412T1 (1994, Alesi)
1'11"90 Ferrari 333SP (slicks)
1'18"90 360 N-GT
1'22"30 Enzo (2003)
1'22"40 360 Challenge
1'25"40 355 Challenge (1997?, wing, slicks, Nicola Larini)
1'26"50 355 Challenge (1995, no wing, streets)
1'27"00 F50
1'28"00 F50 (1995)
1'28"00 360 Challenge Stradale
1'29"60 F40
1'30"00 F40 (1987)
1'30"00 360 Modena
1'31"50 360 Modena
1'31"50 F40 (Gerhard Berger)
1'31"51 575M Maranello
1'32"53 550 Maranello
1'33"00 348 Challenge
1'33"00 F355 F1 (1997)
1'34"00 F355 (1994)
1'34"00 550 Maranello (1997)
1'35"00 F512M (1995)
1'35"00 512TR (1992)
1'35"00 456GT
1'35"00 Maserati 4200GT
1'36"00 Testarossa (1984)
1'37"00 348TB (1989)
1'37"00 288GTO
1'40"00 456GT (1992)

 

I don't know about the 612 Scaglietti.

But I know the F430 was 3 secs faster than the 360 Modena and it is 1 sec faster than the 360 CS.
Now that would be 1.27.00
Not bad!

 

Something to take note of...
Fiorano isn't the same as in the 90s. The length of the track is different I think, so that could have an impact in the laptime numbers.

 

Thanks John,

So we have added the 430 to the list.
But do you know when the trac was modified ?
-And does anyone have lap times before it was modified ?

/Anders

 

New list.
Any news BTW

LAP TIMES PISTA DI FIORANO

Ferrari F2004 (2004, MS) 0.55.999
Ferrari F2003-GA (2003, MS) 0.56.33
Ferrari F2002 0.57.476
Ferrari F2002 (2002, MS) 0.58.378
Ferrari F1 310B (1997, MS) 0.59.00
Ferrari F1 412T1 (1994, Alesi) 1.00.31
Ferrari 333SP (slicks) 1.11.90
Maserati Reparto Corse (Andrea Bertolini) 1.12.336
Ferrari 333SP (slicks & restrictor) 1.13.00
Ferrari 360 GT 1.17.00
Ferrari 360 N-GT (2003) 1.18.90
Ferrari 360 Challenge 1.21.00
Ferrari Enzo (2003) 1.22.30
Ferrari 360 Challenge (2003) 1.22.40
Maserati Trofeo 1.23.848
Ferrari 355 Challenge 1.24.40
Maserati Trofeo 1.25.00
Ferrari Enzo Ferrari 1.25.30
Ferrari 355 Challenge (1997?, wing, slicks, Larini) 1.25.40
Ferrari 355 Challenge (1995, no wing, streets) 1.26.50
Ferrari F50 1.27.00
Ferrari F50 (1995) 1.28.00
Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 1.28.00
Ferrari F430 1.28.50
Ferrari F40 1.29.60
Ferrari F40 (1987) 1.30.00
Ferrari 360 Modena 1.30.00
Ferrari 360 Modena 1.31.50
Ferrari F40 (Gerhard Berger) 1.31.50
Ferrari 575M Maranello 1.31.512
Ferrari 550 Maranello 1.32.528
Ferrari 348 Challenge 1.33.00
Ferrari 575M Maranello 1.33.00
Ferrari F355 F1 (1997) 1.33.00
Ferrari F355 (1994) 1.34.00
Ferrari 550 Maranello (1997) 1.34.00
Ferrari F512M (1995) 1.35.00
Ferrari 512TR (1992) 1.35.00
Ferrari 456GT 1.35.00
Maserati 4200GT 1.35.00
Ferrari 288GTO 1.36.00
Ferrari Testarossa (1984) 1.36.00
Ferrari 348TB (1989) 1.37.00
Ferrari 288GTO 1.37.00
Ferrari F512M 1.37.00
Porsche 959 1.37.00
Ferrari 456GT (1992) 1.40.00
Ferrari 328 GTB 1.44.00

 

The fastest time with the F2005 at Fiorano so far is 57.146 by Schumacher on 17 May.

Jonathan

 

Fiorano circuit was slitly changed in 1995 , it is now a bit faster (shorter) it was changed to suit the new F1 chasiss, so any times before 1995 can not be related or compared to the lap times after 95. And also in 2004 the asfalt was redone which also lowered by 1.5 sec the lap time.

GM