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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    We are quite literally discussing how the rules are written.
     
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  2. ricksb

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    I thought they were punting until Friday? No decision made yet, or did I miss something?

    As I said on the other thread, I don't expect Masi to be fired. They will put him into a newly-created oversight position and then put some supports into place to isolate the RD from team principles campaigning for favorable actions.

    Firing Masi signifies some admission of guilt/culpability for the FIA/F1. Not something they'd endeavor to do at such a delicate time for Liberty and the series.
     
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  3. furoni

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    glad you figured that out!!!about time!!
     
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  4. ingegnere

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    You’re right, seems they put off for a couple of days the announcement of any decision (s).

    I was going by comments on Twitter where it seemed some were expecting a public execution of Masi today.
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    It's not only ME. There are plenty of people who also think something very fishy happened at Abu Dhabi, and that Masi was implicated in it!

    The F1 followers, the spectators, the teams, the drivers and the media don't stop commentating on it, so it's not only ME !

    Don't pretend everything is fine and dandy because the result is that your pet driver* won in highly suspicious circumstances!

    No less than the FIA launched an investigation on the matter, and I don't think they do that for no reason.

    This goes to the core of the FIA and F1, and Abu Dhabi was the culmination of a season of wrong decisions by Masi.

    * Verstappen is Dutch like you,
     
  6. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    A statement from the FIA said that ben Sulayem wanted to incorporate feedback from the teams at the F1 Commission into the FIA’s action plan, to ensure that any changes it did make were as robust as possible.

    “The FIA President led detailed discussions of the 2021 FIA Formula 1 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix,” said the statement.

    “Feedback from the Commission on matters raised will be incorporated into the President’s analysis and he will publicly present news of structural changes and action plan in the coming days.”

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-delays-f1-restructure-plans-following-abu-dhabi-controversy/8169810/
     
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  7. Kimi2007

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    Is this how you practice the civility you were complaining about not getting from me?

    No need for personal stuff man.
     
  8. Kimi2007

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    Yes, you found me out.

    It's me, Michael Masi himself! You figured out the conspiracy.

    I would've gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!
     
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  9. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    If he was fired, I'm sure Masi could easily get at job at Red Bull with a CV like his !!! :p
     
  10. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    RBR to Messy " Then we can have a Motor Race!"

    Messy to Toto " It's called a Motor Race! "

    Can't make this crap up,Messy taking instructions form RBR
     
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  12. crinoid

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    So a team who previous to the race, with all the other teams requested to end under racing conditions, is confirming they will finish under racing conditions as they discussed. Big deal. And Mercedes wanting to end under yellow contrary to what they agreed to with all the other teams. Who’s the A wholes?
     
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  13. werewolf

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    Which team gave Masi the order to allow Hamilton to gain a position off-track, in the first lap at Abu Dhabi? Was that RBR, too?
     
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  14. ricksb

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    I read that. I think that’s what troubles the powers-that-be (according to F1 website). He appeared to follow RBR instructions practically verbatim.

    I understand he will be reassigned to an “oversight” role and replaced as Racing Director (as I predicted)
     
  15. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    He was safety director before , so they will most likely appoint another Safety Director and a separate Race Director and give him some pen pusher position where he cant do anymore damage.;)

    Diversity Director? :eek:
     
  16. Bas

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    ...and there are just as many people who see it my way. Not sure if that occurred to you.

    Not even all teams and drivers can agree with your side (or my side, for that matter). Get some perspective ffs.

    People comment on it because one side claims X, and the other disagrees and claims Y. That's how discussions work.

    FIA investigated the matter, they've had 2 months now and still haven't reached a conclusion. Masi had what, less than 30 seconds? Mercedes dropped their appeal and therefore any possibility of winning the title, if it was so open and shut, they'd have continued and won the title.

    I do think everything is fine and dandy, and for reasons explained to you many times already.

    What also has been explained to you many times is that I'm Dutch in passport only, and that I hold no particular love for my country. I've not been there in 6 years, and before that visit, I was gone for another 6 years! Yet you keep coming back to the same old reasoning...the reason I support Max must be because I'm Dutch.

    **** know why I supported drivers like Kimi, Kubica, Schumacher, Vettel and teams like Ferrari, Minardi, Sauber and Red Bull then.

    But if it makes you happy, please continue making up utter **** as you go along. Hasn't stopped you before, certainly won't stop you now. Like accusing new members here that they work for the FIA

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  17. furoni

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    I think he would find it even easier to get a job at Mercedes, if we count the endless times he helped out elton....
     
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  18. TonyL

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    The smoking gun................I do honestly feel sorry for MM, being hassled like this under extreme pressure by both parties. He was got at by RB and couldnt backtrack as the avalache unfolded.

    They now have a real problem, whatever happens and whatever camp you are in, its a complete FU. For me I dont give a monkies what happens, but my opinion is that MV will feel cheated he didnt win on the day and therefore the title......and before you pile in, i recognize he drove well all season. The problem for me is that the opposition was tripped before reaching the white line............had MV crossed the line neck and neck with Hamilton then he truly deserved the crown, for me its a hollow victory & crown.

    This year, ban all team to FIA radio. One way transmission only............
     
  19. furoni

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    Hey Michael, so glad to meet you, welcome to F-chat, you'll have a blast around here, it's a tough crowd, but no worse than Toto or Horner!
     
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  20. Bas

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    But he showed the same level of following instructions earlier on with the VSC (No SC as per Toto orders), and again on lap 1 when Lewis gained a huge amount after cutting the track (he was "avoiding" an "incident"...as if he would cut the track in that manner gaining that much time if there was gravel there?).

    If Masi is sacked, it can't be for a single offense. It has to be a collection of events.
     
  21. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    You are in fact, post after post, defending feverishly Masi's action, so eager you are to justify Verstappen's win and WDC.

    You completely dismiss the opinions of people who question what happened in the last laps at Abu Dhabi.
     
  22. william

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    He should simply be sacked !

    The man is toxic.
     
  23. Bas

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    Yes, by using the way the rules are poorly written, it allowed for Masi to take control and have the race all teams voted for (finish under green).

    I've no issues how Max won the title. He was taken out by Lewis and Bottas in 2 successive races, and had a tyre blow 2 laps from the end, unchallenged for the lead. On top of that, the Red Bull was handicapped by new regulations brought in mid season. There is no doubt in my mind he is the correct champion.

    All I do is write against the utter drivel you and KTU write. For someone that keeps claiming you have no problem that Max is the WDC, you do seem to make a big point of it constantly...
     
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  24. william

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    #1449 william, Feb 15, 2022
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    Mercedes was right to withdraw their protest, it was the right attitude, IMO.

    It's never convincing to win on appeal, and now Verstappen is left to bear that stigma.
     
  25. MrF355

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    After 58 pages one point that I made long ago was, Did Masi know Max would win. The Hamilton supporters all are of the view that Masi gifted the title to Max by his decision. How was Masi certain that the decision he made would ensure that Max won? And please don't give me the drivel of Max had new tyres, Hamilton's were worn and he could not race Max. Hamilton could have raced Max he had the faster car and he is a master of getting the best out of worn tyres.
     
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