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    empty home stadiums would make more sense but whatever.
     
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    I think the issue is that the teams would not travel and they would play triple headers to speed things up -- but how do the players get home? You think they are going to be on a 3 month road trip away from their families? I don't see it.

    I think MLB wants the TV money given they have to pay the players salaries. Losing an entire season might wipe some of them out. To me June is the last month they can have an effective season. Otherwise its an asterisk.

    I can't see how any team benefits from home games either with no crowds and still being on the road. Only the Diamondbacks would have the advantage of at least living at home.

    The NHL is looking at playing out the last of the season in North Dakota with the same idea.
     
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    if you keep the entire MLB in one city, but spread across multiple stadiums/hotels/training facilities, you better hope to god there's not a breakout of CV in that town. you'll take out the entire league!

    maybe putting AL in Florida and NL in Arizona, doing whatever they can in those areas, then either going back to a regular season or doing playoffs in AZ/FL would work.

    I don't see any way there isn't an asterisk to this season. they're already going to miss a month of regular season, regardless of how it is or isn't made up, it's a disrupted season.
     
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    I completely agree. But maybe they want to accelerate the season in July this way and return to normal in August. If they start the season in September there is no season. You can't extend it because of the weather.
     
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    Some REALLY stupid things here... WTF?

    NEW YORK (AP) — Major League Baseball will look somewhat like high school ball this year under protocols to deal with the new coronavirus, with showers at ballparks discouraged and players possibly arriving in uniform, like they did when they were teenagers.

    Team personnel will be banned from eating at restaurants on road trips.

    Even the Phillie Phantic and Mr. Met will be missing, banned from the field along with all other team mascots.

    The traditional exchange of lineup cards would be eliminated, along with high-fives, fist bumps, and bat boys and girls
    , according to a 67-page draft of Major League Baseball’s proposed 2020 Operations Manual. A copy was sent to teams Friday and obtained by The Associated Press. The guidelines, first reported by The Athletic, are subject to negotiation with the players’ association.

    Teams will be allowed to have 50 players each under the plan, with the number active for each game still be negotiated.

    Spitting is prohibited along with water jugs and the use of saunas, steam rooms, pools and cryotherapy chambers. Hitting in indoor cages is discouraged, batting gloves encouraged.

    Batting practice pitchers are to wear masks, dugout telephones disinfected after each use. Players may not touch their face to give signs, and they’re not allowed to lick their fingers. Teams are encouraged to hold meetings outdoors, players spread apart.

    Teams were asked to respond with their suggested input by May 22. The protocols were written by MLB senior vice presidents Patrick Houlihan, Bryan Seeley and Chris Young, and vice president Jon Coyles. Young is a former pitcher who retired after the 2017 season.

    Protocols include details on testing for team staff, who are divided into three tiers. All others may not enter clubhouses, dugouts and the field.

    Seats in the empty stands near the dugout should be used to maintain distance, according to diagrams in the manual, and the next day’s starting pitcher can’t sit in the dugout. Everyone must keep their distance during “The Star-Spangled Banner” and “God Bless America,”

    Fielders are “encouraged to retreat several steps away from the baserunner” between pitches. First and third base coaches are not to approach baserunners or umpires, and players should not socialize with opponents.

    Managers and coaches must wear masks while in the dugouts. The entire traveling party -- including players -- must wear personal protective equipment while on buses and flights.
    Restaurants are off limits on the road, including the ones in hotels, as are hotel fitness centers.

    “We emphasize that this is a first draft, and will undergo several rounds of changes as we collect comments and suggestions from the clubs, the players’ association, players, and government officials,” deputy commissioner Dan Halem wrote in an email to owners, team presidents and CEOs, and general managers that accompanied the protocols.

    “The document is designed to set minimum standards and identify best practices, but we have attempted to provide clubs with enough flexibility to achieve the desired health and safety objectives in a manner that is tailored to their particular circumstances, including ballpark configuration, location, and the nature of any local governmental regulations or restrictions,” Halem wrote.

    Scoreboard video is prohibited but music allowed. While there won’t be fans, at least not at the start, it will provide a familiar background audio for the telecasts critical to MLB’s bottom line.

    A ball will be thrown away after it is touched by multiple players, and throwing the ball around the infield will be discouraged. Personnel who rub baseballs with mud for the umpires must use gloves.

    “Individuals must avoid any physical interactions (such as high-fives, fist bumps, or hugs) while at club facilities,” the manual says.

    Tier 1 people in the plan include players, managers and coaches plus two each from among physicians, athletics trainers and bullpen catchers plus one strength and conditioning coach.

    Tier 2 includes clubhouse staff, additional coaches, medical and training staff, traveling staff, owners, front office, translators, communications staff, video personnel, the head groundskeeper and security plus players’ union and MLB staff along with contractors.

    Tier 3 covers broadcast personnel and other event services.

    Players must wear masks while in restricted areas “except while on the field or engaging in other strenuous activities” and lockers must have at least 6 feet between them. If needed, temporary clubhouse space will be added, preferably outdoors or areas with better ventilation.

    “Showering in club facilities should be discouraged,” the plan says. “To the extent showering occurs, clubs should explore modifications to facilities to allow for physical distancing and hygiene” such as installing partitions and limiting the number of players using the showers at the same time.

    Teams “should consider requiring (on-field staff) to arrive at club facilities dressed for the day’s activities in order to limit time spent in the clubhouse or locker room.”

    Only medical personnel allowed near injured players.

    There will be staggered reporting dates for the resumption of spring training. When pitchers and catchers arrive, only five players may work out at a time. Then come full team workouts, with small groups encouraged but not required, followed by exhibition games. There will be intake screening upon arrival followed a self-quarantine for 24-48 hours until results are available. Players not assigned to big league team when the season starts will remain at spring training or another separate facility.

    All games at spring training facilities in Florida and Arizona, whether exhibition or regular season, must be scheduled for 7-9 p.m. local time unless MLB gives specific consent.

    A fifth umpire would be allowed when the temperature reaches a certain level, allowing for rotation, including sharing of plate umpire duties, Teams should take batting practice on back fields.

    Among the road trip changes:

    —Use of Uber, subways and public buses is banned.

    —Private airports encouraged and if not available, teams are to use private aviation facilities to board and exit.

    —Transportation Security Administration screen should take place at ballparks if it can be arranged.

    In-flight catering is limited.

    Lower floors are to be used if possible at hotels, so stairs can be used instead of elevators, and private areas arranged for entrances, exits and check-in.

    —Six staggered bus trips will be scheduled to and from the ballpark.

    Team staff, including players, will be given thermometers for self screening and are to take two tests in quick succession each morning.

    At the ballpark, people will be given temperature checks twice a day and multiple fluid swabs each week. Comprehensive Drug Testing will collect samples and Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory in Salt Lake City is to provide results within 24 hours.

    Family members of players, umpires and the households of anyone covered under the plan will be offered access to testing and PPE. The individuals are encouraged to avoid crowd when away from ballpark.

    Anyone with a temperature of 100 or higher or who exhibits COVID-19 symptoms or has come in contact with someone confirmed to be infected will be subject to rapid testing at a nearby site. A person cannot rejoin the team until testing negative twice in tests taken at least 24 hours apart. The person also must not exhibit symptoms or COVID-19, and the team physician and MLB medical staff must determine the person not at risk.

    If an individual is exposed to a person with an infection, that person must show no signs of disease, be tested daily for at least seven consecutive days and undergo more frequent temperature checks. The person also must wear a mask at all times except while on the field.

    Each spring training and regular season ballpark must have dedicated testing and isolation areas. MLB also will offer testing of people who live in same household as covered individuals and to health care workers/first responders in big league cities.

    Most tests will take saliva but there may be oral or nasal swabs. Blood samples will be collected less frequently for serology testing used to detect antibodies.
     
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    Wtf is the deal with prohibiting showers?
     
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    Well great now the Astros can’t bang on trash cans without fans there
     
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    Makes as much sense as no scoreboard replays.
     
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    Unfortunately, the yankees and red sox can continue to use their apple watches. ;)
     
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    Did you see Blake Snell saying he wouldn't risk his life for half his salary which would be $5m. For 2x that number he would though. A healthy 20 something athlete saying that.

    Funny bc firemen do it daily for alot less. I swear these athletes are something else.

    With that said, for $5m you could inject me with covid 19 today.
     
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    Yea. It was utterly ridiculous. But what surprised me more, was people in the media glossed right over that and didn't even discuss it, or barely mentioned it. At least the little bit of radio I listened to when that story came out.
     
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    I dont think Blake realizes we've now gone 2 months without sports, as much as I miss it, its pretty unnecessary right now, I've adapted.

    Lets see where a guy like him could make $5m in 12 months working 17 days a year in the real world since we're going half a season. Guys a starting pitcher he could sit at home the days he's not playing and nobody would care
     
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    I know they were clowning him on his math.

    I found it annoying that they were saying the lower paid guys with the cut would only be making mid six figures. Its like, people who make 40k and even less have had to take pay cuts now and in the past, it happens all the time.

    I dont begrudge players for making money, I find it disingenuous for athletes to complain about their pay.
     
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    MLB players are the most overpaid people on the planet. Thank you Curt Flood and Marvin Miller.
     
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    #22 TheMayor, May 21, 2020
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    The owners have no self control.

    NFL football brings in a lot of new young talent every year and burns through them in 1- 3 seasons. The NFL has fewer games, less travel expenses, and a shorter season. And it has no minor league teams to support for new talent.

    You have to wonder if this time its in the Baseball owner's favor. They didn't call the lock out. The economics of running a team are showing its ugly hand to the players.

    An athelete who loses a year loses maybe a quarter of his potential salary in a lifetime. You don't stop the DNA clock. There's a huge incentive to get going again.
     
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    Sources: Under MLB proposal to players, a player making $35 mil in 2020 would make about $7.8 mil. A player making 10 mil would get about 2.9 mil and a player making a mil would make $434k.
     
  24. TheMayor

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    So basically no baseball this year.... I think they would rather sit it out.
     
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    I assume service time would continue and this years guys would be free agents? Im gonna be so salty if george springer has played his last game as an astro.
     

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