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  1. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I love to watch the big’o cars at RA, one of America’s greatest tracks.:)
     
  2. F1tommy

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  3. GuyIncognito

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    I'll believe it when I see it, but it seems "official"

    https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2022/07/19/chicago-to-host-first-ever-nascar-cup-series-street-race-in-2023/

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    Also I dont think they have anyone in Chicago that knows how to run an asphalt machine or use a shovel.
     
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    IMSA will be running an event there as well. Really hope it is the Miatas. I wonder who would turn a faster lap time..
     
  7. F1tommy

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    Very interesting. I wonder wich IMSA event??

    YTD murder rates for US cities and how they compare to last year's counts at the same time. All this proves is the US is violent everywhere, not just Chicago.

    Stay downtown and you will be fine.


    Atlanta
    82 / Rate 16.4 per 100K
    Up 24%

    Chicago
    323 / Rate 11.5 per 100K
    Down 11%

    Dallas
    126 / Rate 9.7 per 100K
    Up 17%

    Los Angeles
    183 / Rate 4.7 per 100K
    Down 2%

    Milwaukee
    112 / 19.3 per 100K
    Up 33%

    Minneapolis
    45 / Rate: 10.6 per 100K
    Down 20%

    New York City
    210 / Rate 2.4 per 100K
    Down 10%

    Philadelphia
    274 / Rate 17.1 per 100K
    Down 4%

    Washington, DC
    109 / Rate: 15.6 per 100K
    Up 14%
     
  8. F1tommy

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  9. Jack-the-lad

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    This weekend: Kimi in an Xfinity car at Watkins Glen. Must see!:D
     
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    Seven different countries will be represented, a record for the Cup Series. That includes former F1 World Champion Kimi Raikkonen, 2010 Le Mans 24 overall winner Mike Rockenfeller, and another ex-F1 driver in Daniil Kvyat.
     
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  11. Jack-the-lad

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    I miss Jacques Villeneuve in NASCAR. Also Boris Said.
     
  12. stever

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    It's Cup, isn't it? Not Xfinity.......??
     
  13. Whisky

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    Cindric is a hothead who I lost ALL respect for with his MANY antics he pulled while racing in the Xfinity underseries.
    This clown made Keselowski and Logano look like a choirboys.
    I was a HUGE fan of Penske Racing, but not anymore.

    They can do anything they want, but they won't sustain it, no matter what 'it' is.
    The fact they ran the same schedule/venues 'forever' is not the problem, we actually liked it when we could
    always plan to go to certain venues at certain times of the year.
    They developed the 'playoffs', they developed spec cars, they had a woman, they have a Mexican, none of that is 'fixing' anything.

    I know a TON of people that used to go to Bristol, but they have been priced out of it.
    Just look at all the tracks that are either covering or removing grandstands, people just are
    not following the series anymore because the crowd was an older crowd that has no idea who
    the younger, new drivers are, and nascar is not attracting very many new (young) fans.
    Just look at all the places they used to sell out, and now they can barely give away tickets.

    Look at Fontana - it is no longer a 2 mile track, it's in the process of being converted to a 1/2 mile track as we speak.
    Chicagoland, Kansas, Atlanta, lots of places would sell out FAST, now they don't sell out at all.
    Look at how bad the crowd is at Indy, from 200,000 to what, 25,000?

    Nascar just cannot seem to understand that racing no longer appeals to the younger (under 30) crowd, and I doubt it ever will.
    That's not being a doomsayer, but just take a look at all the young'uns when you go out - ALL of them have their noses
    stuck to their smart phones. That's not a racing demographic.
    Kids/guys used to work on cars with their dads, and today dads cannot work on their normal cars because it's all computerized,
    so the kids don't. The trickle-down effect (or lack of) is huge.
     
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  14. Jack-the-lad

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    I’m pretty sure it’s Xfinity and also the truck race.
     
  15. GuyIncognito

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    Austin is a hothead, total opposite of his dad. however, he's "double entitled"....not only is his dad the President of Team Penske, with connections out the wazoo but his mom is the daughter of Jim Trueman (of Red Roof Inn/Truesports fame), so there's family $$ too. bad combo.

    spot on, NASCAR can't connect with people under 40 for whatever reason. F1 and to a lesser degree Indy have.

    even IMSA, which NASCAR owns, has a decent millennial/Gen Z fan base. not sure what NASCAR can't figure out. new car has been reasonably successful, lots of winner this year (14 I think), etc. but it doesn't translate somehow.
     
  16. Whisky

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    I know full-well who his parents are.

    Nascar can't connect with the cup series because the only cars you see kids working on today are the 4 cyl buzz bombs.
    I don't see kids cruising the main drag in 68 Mustangs and 70 Chevelles because they
    cannot afford them, only us 60+ farts have afforded them, and are capable of working on them.

    You have seen the standard joke of 'give a kid a rotary phone and see if he can figure it out'?
    Extrapolate that to setting points, using a timing light, set float levels in a carb and see what happens....
    Buying an ignition microchip solves everything.
    I DO realize that is what the current Cup series is - they don't use carbs anymore - my point is most
    kids don't get that deep into cars anymore, they just buy parts and bolt them on. In my HS class I would
    bet you we had 50 guys that could rebuild a 302 or 350 ci engine, I doubt you could find 2 today.

    Nascar is going to have to bite the bullet and realize they need a 4 cyl series and race them on
    1/2 mile or 1-mile tracks, they cannot go to Daytona or Talladega with them.
    Eventually, that series will be their 'premier' series.

    Funny how 1/8 mile drag racing has been growing leaps and bounds the last few years...
     
  17. GuyIncognito

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    all the tuner kids around here drive 10-15 year old BMW 3 series or Infiniti G35s. maybe that should replace Super Late Models :)
     
  18. Whisky

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    If nascar is TRULY concerned about getting more young folk (under 25) attracted to
    attend, let alone watch, they need to go to many different areas of the country and see
    what those kids are driving today, doing to their cars today - what nascar starts doing today
    will determine how nascar thrives in 15-20-30 years.
    If 'most' kids today are driving 15 yr old Bimmers, they need to start skewing to a series
    that races 4 and 6 cyl foreign cars.

    The days of 'forcing' people to race 'American V-8's' have to come to an end. (yes, I know Toyota is there)
    They need to attract Audi, BMW, VW, Kia, Honda, Subarui - you name it - because most people I know
    are buying those cars, I don't see a lot of under 40 yr olds buying Chevies anymore.

    BUT (there is always a BUT) - as long as money keeps coming in from TV and series sponsors,
    nascar is content with the way it is. The next time a race is on TV, take a good look at the grandstands,
    most of the people in them are 40+. I didn't say ALL, but most. And most everyone in the stands came
    from a racing family, where Grandpa went to races, Dad went to races, and now the kids are going to
    races, but that trail is evaporating. FAST.

    It's a process.
     
  19. Jack-the-lad

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  20. Jack-the-lad

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    I was wrong. He is in the Cup race. I could swear I read somewhere that it was Xfinity.
     
  21. Jack-the-lad

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    Racing was better before lightning was invented…..:rolleyes:
     
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  22. GuyIncognito

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    throw the green you cowards
     
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  23. Jack-the-lad

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    “Whaaaah…it’s waining…..whaaaah….ah caint drawve….whaaaaah!”

    :rolleyes:
     
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  24. Jack-the-lad

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    Oh, good. More zzzzzzzzzzz-inducing interviews…………
     
  25. GuyIncognito

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    so....

    half distance or racing tomorrow?
     

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