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Need F-Chat help, Can somebody decipher this VIN for me.....

Discussion in '308/328' started by tommott77, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. tommott77

    tommott77 Formula Junior

    Feb 1, 2009
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    F106AB20759, 77 308 GTB

    Mucho thanks to anybody who can find some history on this car for me.
     
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  3. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

    Feb 15, 2001
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    Sorry I have 20927 born in Feb 1977
     
  4. tommott77

    tommott77 Formula Junior

    Feb 1, 2009
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    So does this make the car I am looking at 168 cars older than yours, and if that is the case does that make it the 759th 308 built?
     
  5. Roryferrari

    Roryferrari Formula Junior

    Apr 28, 2004
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    All models being built @ same time as yours as well. Simple answer no.
     
  6. tommott77

    tommott77 Formula Junior

    Feb 1, 2009
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    Anybody with access to the registry wish to check out the VIN?
     
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  8. BAturb

    BAturb Formula Junior

    Nov 14, 2007
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    thats not a vin thats the engine number, F106AB for 2 valve 308 motor then followed by the engine number, the vin can be found on the plate on the steering colum or on the frame in the engine bay, they are different numbers
     
  9. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

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    The vin on my steering column is 20927 but in the US they do not accept this number . We use a 17 digit system so although by adding the engine type (F106AB) 11 letters/numbers are acceptable and the registration reads the vin # as F106AB20927. I believe the 17 digit numbers came about in 1980. Sorry to go off topic. FYI
     
  10. Doug

    Doug Formula 3

    Nov 13, 2003
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    The F106AB is the chassis type with the "B" meaning Berlinetta. F106AS is Spyder. The remaining digits are the car number. This is from the owners manual.
     
  11. BAturb

    BAturb Formula Junior

    Nov 14, 2007
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    your vin should be longer than 20927, there should be more to it than that, look in the engine bay, it will be stamped in the frame, you may be right about the post 1980 numbers though
    the number on my engine (85 mondial QV) is, 105A02400073 which is different to the vin which is, ZFFRE14D000058759
     
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  13. Doug

    Doug Formula 3

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    17 digit VIN started 1981.
     
  14. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

    Feb 15, 2001
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    Allen please see Doug's answer. Us older pre 1981 cars have a 5 digit vin # and were required by or motor vehicle departments to add additional numbers. So they just took the engine number and added it to the vin. You have the 17 digit numbering system that came about in 1981. This is why we cannot get a carfax trace of our cars because they only recognize 17 digit codes. FYI
     
  15. bobs308

    bobs308 Karting

    Dec 4, 2007
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    Randy Edwards
    I guess we have smarter computers in Texas; my Texas title and insurance card both show a 24903 VIN, just as stamped on my 1978 GTS. Randy
     
  16. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 6, 2002
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    That actually IS a complete FRAME stamping, with the addition of two stars (of the five pointed variety I might add, Texan style) :D

    So its a F106AB frame, (a 1977 GTB, there were no GTS at that point) with a five digit VIN (as all Ferraris before the 17 digit format were).

    That is indeed a 'good' number if you know how to read it but correctly NOT technically a VIN.

    As for Texas, I have given TxDOT an education but their handbook actually wants "308GTBxxxxx" as the Vin...LOL!

    A five digit VIN per "the Computer" is a Farm Implement Trailer. So Randy whoever titled your car has gone thru the same gaunlet, as I.

    HTH
    Alan
     
  17. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    #14 BigTex, Jul 5, 2009
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2009
    F106AB*20759* is what the car in question has stamped at the RH frame rail of the engine compartment.

    Sadly none of the modern software tracking VINs can give you much, check the 308GTB Registrey operated from Germany or else the Ferrari Market Letter may have tracked 'For Sale' ads that give you a rough clue of the car's previous travels!
     
  18. bobs308

    bobs308 Karting

    Dec 4, 2007
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    Big Tex: "A five digit VIN per "the Computer" is a Farm Implement Trailer. So Randy whoever titled your car has gone thru the same gaunlet, as I."

    I titled it from a California title originally titled in 1985.
     
  19. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 6, 2002
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    Hmmmm, that's interesting...maybe it was the County Tax Office that was calling mine an 'Implement Trailer'........it took a conference call to finally straighten them out!

    Maybe there's enough 5 digit VINs in TxDOT's data now to set a precedent, and it's no big deal!

    Anyone have any history on the OP's car???
     

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