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New Ferrari - Temporary Tag Problem - unrecognized VIN

Discussion in 'Texas' started by ke0kie, May 20, 2020 at 12:06 PM.

  1. ke0kie

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    #1 ke0kie, May 20, 2020 at 12:06 PM
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    Hi Folks,

    Please help if you can :)

    Got a weird problem, in a weird time (during the COVID period).

    Texas has closed all DMV/tax offices due to COVID, allowing only smaller subset of services via mail or phone or internet.

    I need to register my out-of-state purchased Ferrari to get my Texas title and plates. It's going to be several weeks at least before I get the title, so in order to use the car (like to get a safety inspection which I need to register the car), I need a temporary plate on the car.

    A temporary plate is not available via phone or internet, those are only issued in person at the vehicle tax office, per my local tax office customer service person (Dallas County Tax Office 214-653-7811).

    Tax office customer service did say I have an option, and that is to purchase a "Vehicle Transit Permit" via their website, which are typically only good for 5 days. However during the COVID period, Texas is allowing these to be used beyond 5 days like the 30-day temporary tag, which are physically not possible to acquire due to office closure.

    So great, right?

    I go to the site to get the Vehicle Transit Permit: https://permit.txdmv.gov/Permit/VTPermit/agree

    Enter VIN number, which is required.

    Site returns "Is the VIN correct? Please try again." And the process fails, cannot proceed.

    This HAS TO BE because the car is a Ferrari, and their database knows nothing about that VIN number or VIN style, something like that. That is my guess.

    So...I'm on hold again (it'll be another 30 minutes or so+) for tax office customer service, to see what they recommend I do, if there is even an option at this point.

    >> Has anyone else had a problem like this?

    >> Does anyone know someone in the Dallas area, like a car dealer, that I could somehow get a temporary tag by proxy through that person?

    I'm a totally legit person here trying to do the normal / right thing registering a used car, and really confused
    what to do!
     
  2. Ianjoub

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    Just print the page saying they don't recognize the VIN. Then drive and if you get pulled over, hope for a sympathetic cop.
     
  3. pilotoCS

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    I must tell you that it's exceptionally rare when the US DOT does not recognize a legitimate VIN. I can't speak to the Texas DMV. Did you get the VIN directly off the door jamb of the car, or are you using dealer paperwork?
     
  4. ke0kie

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    Was thinking the same at minimum, thx for the input.
     
  5. ke0kie

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    Thx for response, VIN is from title / match door plate, no VIN issue on the car. So DMV / permit system seem just unable to process the VIN.
     
  6. drjohngober

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    Which Ferrari is it? I have had the same issue before with a grey market 360.
     
  7. tomc

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    Got similar issue with a truck we bought out of LA. I can type in my '11 Cali, which we have had for 4 years, and DMV knows about it.
    Type in the VIN for the truck, which is a '20, and no dice.

    I've noticed quite a lot of people with long-time expired temp tags. Ours is 2 months out of date, and we have not been stopped.
    So, my guess, is that a ton of us are in the same boat.

    Like others have suggested, print the non-successful attempt, and try not to give the popo a reason to stop you. I have noticed that
    the cops seem to be out more in the last week or so trying to curb the excessive speeding that seems to have accompanied the
    COVID and post-COVID lockdown...T
     
  8. ke0kie

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  10. drjohngober

    drjohngober Formula 3

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    And congratulations! Beautiful car! Just the perfect amount of carbon fiber!
     
  11. ke0kie

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    Thanks!! it's choice, enthusiast owned and loved / maintained / records galore, the color combo i've been searching for at least 3 years, and LOTS of upgrades yes exactly on the carbon + real 18" MAG Challenge wheels. I'm over the moon to say the least, just trying to sort through the transactional nightmare with the plates!
     
  12. pilotoCS

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    #12 pilotoCS, May 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM
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    One last thing: When you bought the car, did the seller provide a CarFax report? If not, try and run your VIN on www.carfax.com and see what happens. Yeah, it will cost you a few bucks.

    Or, you could ask the police to run the VIN. That way they know you're being proactive with the issue.
     
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  13. GrigioGuy

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    Right now all expirations tags etc enforcement is on hold until 60 days after the COVID-19 emergency is ended by the Gov. So I'd get an insurance card and leave the out-of-state tags on it.
     
  14. Shark01

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    I can confirm this in the Houston area, heard directly from both the Tax Office and the Sheriff. BTW, our tax office re-opened 2 days ago....
     
  15. BigTex

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    Well Step 1 to buying Texas plates is to surrender the Out of State title and pay taxes, so you are missing that step.

    I think the TxDot computer you are trying to interface with means "number not recognized as a Texas titled vehicle", so it can't help you.
    Wait on your title, and then pay your license taxes to get the plate, and they will take your title and mail you a Texas version.

    HTH
    The State runs DMV and titles, but it defers to the County Tax collection on plates.
     
  16. ke0kie

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    good advice! have carfax and ya the VIN works via carfax.

    I called tax office back for advice, they said the temporary permit is actually not going to work for my VIN, like the VIN just does not register in their system.

    What I told her was I'm just going to make a rectangular temporary faux-plate that says something like "due to COVID-19 I can't get temporary plate", and if I get pulled over, have the full compliment of documents to support that I'm the owner. She did say all Texas police have been notified that expired temporary plates, missing temporary plates are going to be common, and that drivers simply cannot get them right now, and as long as drivers can prove ownership and have insurance, and indicate bill of sale/time frame to explain the issue, shouldn't have any issue. I think police are going to be very accommodating ultimately about this issue, and now I'm not that super worried about it.

    Such a weird time to be trying to register and drive a used car!
     
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  17. ke0kie

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    Thanks for this info, and tax office customer service team essentially said the same thing. I think I'll be ok in the no-tag state for the next couple of months, so weird !
     
  18. pilotoCS

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    Okay, great. Enjoy the car. Forza Ferrari.
     
  19. sct4a

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    Don't print up your own version of a temp plate or some message on it. It's better to simply not have a plate than something that looks fraudulent which will cause you to get pulled over and will draw unwanted attention. Just keep a copy of proof of sale and active insurance in your name on it and you'll be fine. I drove an F-Type R for 3 years in dallas without a plate at all over my fight against the idiotic red light camera scam and didnt have problems.
     
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  20. MaurizioAM

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    All you need is proof on insurance and title info showing you are/going to be legit owner and like some others have said if you get pulled over simply tell them you are heading to mechanic shop to get everything sorted for registration. I just had to do the same thing.
     
  21. Qdog458

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    I would not worry about it. Just keep your purchase contract and insurance card in the glove box in case they pull you over and explain the situation or say temp tag ripped off the car or got wet
     

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