New pic of ferrari 599 gtb at fiorano circuit

Personally, I like petite trim women, but I know many men that like the large figured woman. "The more the cushion, the better the pushin" is their motto. So who are you to call them crazy or wrong? Possibly you should be the one to "chill out"? You act as if your opinion is gospel. It's not. Any more than someone whose position is oppostie of yours. Actually, your approach turns off a lot of people. You comment like you are just a teenager.

I find the 288GTO to be beautiful as you do, but then I also believe the 599 will be just as attractive when it hits the streets. Its a personal thing MBoy, that's why cars come in colors other than black. We all have our own tastes and sense of beauty that isn't wrong or isn't right. It belongs to ourselves and as long as we are happy, no need to heed someone like you that accuses others of having scales over their eyes. That approach comes from someone that has blinders on theirs.

 

Did we already have this pic from the yellow 599 in Fiorano?
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Nope, but its been on Renn Team for a while....
They even Pchopped all the bare aluminum yellow, looks
much better.

 

Well, I'm not the target market for the 599, so my comments won't be sending Ferrari into a cold sweat, but this looks like stew of design elements from other cars. All the extraneous scoops and details are there to make it look less like a Mitsu Eclipse. It's not very harmonious - the 550/575 are muscular and sleek in comparison.

Maybe it will look better in person? I've noticed even the widely admired pseudo-modern Ferrari's -- 355, 308/328 among them -- are "nice" in phoos but stunning in person.

 

No, great shot! Best view of the car so far and really brings alot of the elements together. Thanks for posting.

 

The front end on that thing screams Ferrari.

 

Ok, I am the only one who thinks that front looks like (reminds me of) the 250 GT Lusso's front???

 

So a bunch of kids,trolls,low self estimed Lambo owners,people who could not buy a new Ferrari anyway and some legitimate potential buyers,all hate the 599 as they did Enzo ,430 and many others before.
In the meantime Ferrari will enjoy longer waiting lists then any other manufacturer and will laugh all the way to the bank....
Keep harping.....

 

Yes only YELLOW paint

 

Well said.

In the end what do I care ... I'll just vote with my wallet, and add it to the growing list of Ferrari's I would not consider, like the 612.
Pete

 

Yes I understand your point and you are right about it, its just my opinion, but the thing is that the 599 is the latest 12 cylinder GT and is very ugly to my eyes and I'm not alone on this.
One thing I clearly remember is that Ferrari had many arguments with his son Dino about building a mid engine for the street and at the end Enzo gave in and gave it a go to the Dino model then later lost the fear and agreed with the BB, then the Testarossa came along and then he died, he went to his grave building cars with the 12 cyl. in the back.
Formula one is the most important thing for Ferrari and true Ferrari fans prefer the motors to go in the back. The front engine cars were outclass, the mid engine cars were more fun and superior. So who is to say that Enzo ever wanted to built the flagship as a front engine 12 cyl. GT car again? Its obvious that the Ferrari company decided to go back to front engine 12 cylinders just to satisfy the aging Ferrari buyers, nostalgia and comfort would prove as a good selling point for those customers. I understand that there are many people making decisions, also marketing strategies are taking place. What I see is that when Enzo died a lot of things died along with him, the 70s and the 80s are gone and now Ferrari is following the trend instead of leading it, at least thats the case with the 599.

 

Enzo also died while the 410/412 was being produced...

But in any event, personally, as much as I love Ferrari and its history, I don't much understand the "Enzo would have wanted X," or "Enzo thought Y" as a justification for stuff. Heritage is abolutely vital to this company, and it's one of the things I'm really interested in. But Luca doesn't have to follow "The Gospel According to Enzo" as though it was handed down to him on stone tablets.

That said: it is often said that Enzo cared primarily about racing, and made the road cars only to feed the need. Thus, in that respect, if the design sold, he would have approved of it. Even if it looked like a plucked ostrich on wheels. And the 599 will sell, and sell well.

I'm not saying I love the car. I certainly like it better than the 612, which I do not like at all. I'm just trying to put all this in context. Ferrari currently has one car in its lineup that I do love, and that's enough for me. And I'm glad it can't be considered a "baby brother" of its more expensive sibling.

 

Hahahaha.

 

ZJPJ,

Yes the 412 of course, but it wasn't a bad ass car and far away from the top of the line. I'm not arguing with you by the way and I know your points are on spot with mine, I'm just talking my brain off and looking at the other side of the coin or my other side of the coin. I hope the 612 and the 599 sell and very well, this will mean more cash for Ferrari and better cars down the road.
Are you talking about the 430? That car I completely like and I will get one soon. I sold my Gallardo and got into a 360 just so I could own one sooner and at msrp.

 

Yeah, I love the 430.

The cars I like in the modern era are: F430, 355, and F50. All my other favorite Ferraris are 1960s or before.

 

Ferrari made many mid-engined race cars before the 250LM. I do not believe Enzo so much as held on to front engined cars over mid-engined cars over anything but ignorance and reluctance to change ... but like everything else, once it started winning, er, he never turned back.

Italian engineers are reluctant to change simple as that, or atleast used to be ... then how many Italian engineers work at Ferrari now?

Also what defines the 'flag ship' of their range?, is it the fastest, or the most expensive, etc.

For example when the 250GT 2+2 was being produced it was the most expensive ... thus I guess the flagship, but ofcourse the 250GT SWB was the fastest and most desirable (to most now).

Thus I return to my point in this post, Ferrari should NOT be sacrificing looks for all out performance on this model, the 430 should hold that flag and this car should just be a great stylish GT.

Pete

 

I was reading that Enzo didn't want to build mid engine cars for street use as he thought that type of car design was dangerous for the average joe to drive and he was worried to hurt the publics outlook of his company if serious accidents were to take place due to this type of car design.

 

I love the way the car looks, as someone stated earlier in the thread " the best looking GT since the 355". The other exception is the 550/575.

Ken

 

..."Hey dude, nice 'Vette; who did the body kit?"

 

Could ferrari make an uglier front end than the 612, YES they have done it. Others gave all the reasons like m-boy and hari. The front looks like japanese lousy styling, these headlights are fugly, and the sides and back are a hodge-podge.

I like the 360/430 very much but ferrari can't get the 12 right since the TR.

And yes you buy a car because of the looks.

 

wow, that's a bold statement...

 

Great news for those of us who don't agree with you and who actually love Ferraris (and not a sooped up VW) as i guess you won't be buying one ....

This is A classic

BTW, when the TR came out everybody screamed in "horror".........

 

Some screamed horror, but not ugly, boring looking, with looks that only a 50 year old plus would admire. The car has many Ferrari styling elements to it but those at this moment in life don't do anything good for it.
I mean I love women but I don't have to like every single one out there, that doesn't take away that I'm less of a pervert, hell yes I'm a pervert and proud of it, but I'm not a sick.

 

...Many still do.

 

I wouldn't know about souped-up vw's, i don't drive a 911. I usually know what i like when i see it. I don't have to be convinced. The TR looked great from the start as did the 3x8's, 355, 360/430.

No one can complain about the power but we are talking about the styling in this thread and it seems most don't like the looks. Those long narrow headlights are just bad.