I didn’t remember who asked me about the vent in the passenger footroom but here is a pic: Image Unavailable, Please Login
There is a famous picture of Dinos and 365 GTB/4s unpainted bodies sitting outside in Scagletti’s yard before they went into production. Maybe someone can find that picture. I will keep looking. I have never owned a 365 GTB/4. But I have owned 2 C/4s, 2 GTCs and 2 BBs. And a 308 GT/4 a one 246 GTS. The only car that I had any rust issues was on the Scaglitti cars.
Here. Photos by the late Edwin K. Niles of Los Angeles, CA/USA. I own the entire Niles collection and archive today, I purchased it from Ed more than ten years ago. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I’ve seen these pictures over the years more than once, but wouldn’t categorize them as “says it all”, but if you (or anyone else) prefer(s) to believe they do, I’m not going waste my time debating such “belief”. I was just hoping someone with actual (& extensive ?) hands-on restoration experience on both could demonstrate & explain what makes one (clearly ?) better built/construction than the other, that’s all, but not going to hold my breath either.
I wish to add that I mean no disrespect to your (or anyone else's) beliefs. It's just that I've been personally researching, rebuilding, repairing & restoring vintage cars for over 4 decades (i.e 2/3 of my life), tend to take it perhaps more seriously than most, including many so-called "professionals", and being extremely curious by nature, especially whenever I hear or read "claims" (regardless of their subject) I don't necessarily agree with or believe, I wish to find out what these "claims" are really based on. And more often than not, I've discovered some long held, perpetuated folklore-like beliefs people have heard or read somewhere (books, magazines, internet, etc) but have no first-hand experience or practical evidence of to back them with (You know, kind of like people reciting HP numbers of their vintage cars seen in period marketing campaigns, etc, which most adults should know being exaggerated, to say the least). As for your personal experience with "rust issues" only on Scaglietti built Ferraris, I don't doubt them, but like with any other car(s) ever produced, they could also stem from any number of other contributing factors, including but not limited to their age, previous ownership -, geographical location -, storage -, maintenance -, usage -, etc history rather than just how they might've been temporarily stored during their original manufacturing process. Kind of like stories I've heard, read (and seen photos of) some Corvette chassis manufactured sometime in 1960s having also been stored outside for extended periods (weeks or months ?) due to production of their (fiberglass) bodies lagging behind, hence chassis having become subjected to corrosion/oxidation, i.e. "rust issues".
Seems that Mr. Loh choose a set of Daytona Borranis for his 365 GTC/4. I love the Cromodora and i like the Borranis much more on 250-275-330 but the stance in the rear doesn‘t look bad but little bit wrong in my eyes… Anyone with a pic of a 365 GTC/4 with a Daytona Cromodora in the rear? Image Unavailable, Please Login
I love the look of wire wheels on the GTC/4, and the Daytona wire wheels look absolutely massive on that little car. for the time the Daytona wheels were fat, the Cromodora wheels were something like 15x9 in the rear. I love the look of the bigger wheels in the back and smaller up front, looks fast just sitting there!
I'm curious of what does these pictured wheels (on the black C/4) makes them specifically "Daytona Borranis" ? Also, f I'm not mistaken, all or most C/4's (including yours ?) came with same 15" x 7.5" Cromodoras introduced in Daytonas, so plenty of pictures should be readily available. P.S. The one owner C/4 I'm currently working on correcting several unexpected/surprising problems created by previously performed services/repairs (not by me) is riding on four RW 4075 15" x 7.5" Borranis & 215/70VR15 XWXs.
Yes, correct, 365 GTC/4 and 365 GTB/4 came with 7.5“ Cromodora and the Borrani for the 365 GTC/4 came with 7.5“ too. But the Borrani for the Daytona came with 9“! And the pic shows clear, it‘s not a 7,5“! edit: And i asked for the wider Daytona Cromodora from the later cars. I mixed it first up with the Competizione rims with the 9,5“ front. Here a later 365 GTB/4 pair front an rear, with 9“ Cromodora. Image Unavailable, Please Login Here, Borrani on the Loh car, 9“! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
While I was never there when Daytonas were new, I’ve always been under the impression they all came with 7.5” wide wheels, all or mostly Cromodoras as the 9” Cromodora wasn’t introduced until as the rear wheel on 365 BB and subsequently adopted as a rear wheel aftermarket choice by many Daytona owners (I’m getting ready to install a pair of 9” Cromodoras in a Daytona next week).
My mistake if it was only a popular after production upgrade by the owners. And i always thought that the 365 GT4 BB started life with 7,5“ in the rear and 9“ came with the 512 BB. But in first line, the pic from the Loh car shows that there are Daytona Borranis with 9“ are mounted in the rear.
Image Unavailable, Please Login I need some advice on how to sell my beloved C4. I have owned this car since 2012 and it went through a 2-year restoration then. Its been a fantastic car. I'm going in a different direction now with my cars and want sell 2-3 of them out of the 12. A few less cars would be nice. Wasn't sure if going the auction route is good (RM, Broad Arrow, Gooding etc), BAT, Ebay, etc. Thanks everyone
B.A.T. seems to be getting good prices of late for high quality Ferraris. You need to put in a lot of details , including a good driving movie. If you do not get what you want, you just hold on to it. I don't think there is much to lose.
Car looks too out of balance and those tires look like they might scrape the insides of the GTC/4 being of a milder suspension than that of the GTB/4.