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Official Countach Value Thread

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  1. joe sackey

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    Given that beans were technically already spilled, I thought it appropriate to volunteer to clean up the mess.

    We wouldn't want the wrong impression to be created in a thread that is based on actual deal numbers. I'm sure you can appreciate this.
     
  2. joe sackey

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    We are.
     
  3. Peter K.

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    +1 This is exactly the way it's suppose to go, exactly what we've been discussing.
     
  4. Countachqv

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    Nice to clear this up. $80K for a top shape , no story anniv was quite a steal if true. looks like the car was in good hands so even in the 113K its a good buy (no added 10-30K buy repairs)
     
  5. joe sackey

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    Yes, the point being made here is that $80k for a top shape, no story Annivesario doesn't exist.

    If I were a buyer of a Countach, Id have repair money set aside regardless of when it was last serviced. Why? Because they are 22 to 37 year old classic cars..
     
  6. Wow! That would have been a spectacular deal. Thank you Joe for correction.
     
  7. topcarbon

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    Damn, you are good
     
  8. topcarbon

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    So, let's say this car is every bit as nice as the seller says and it passes ppi, is this a good deal, average deal?
     
  9. roytoy2003

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    That does not matter..what matters is it what you want and does it work for you.

    You can take one car with one price, show it to 5 different people and get 5 different aswers..

    BUT, if it makes you feel better..if "every bit as nice..." passes PPI, IMO yes, fair square Deal for all involved.
     
  10. joe sackey

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    I know I am setting an unusual precedent by agreeing with Roy far too much, but essentially he is right here. The general principle is DYH (see above) + MYH (Make Yourself Happy).

    Having said that, the number on the table is squarely within the range as a good-to-average deal. You know how much time you have invested looking and so you know how many questionable cars are out there. Furthermore, several cars have sold in the $110,000 to $126,000 range, and this is established. My good friends John Blackburn and Steve Ooley just sold a to-die-for Bianco Perlato/Rosso Annivesario for $110,000 and I can tell you that was a GREAT deal for the buyer because the words "brand new" have appropriate application in describing that particular car. Personally, I think that will be the new bottom for a car that has no issues.

    As described to me by Ken, the car you are looking at is quite nice, but it is not totally perfect, and he has told you so. A solid no-stories car (as told to me), but you need to do the due diligence to establish same. Classic color scheme, still original livery in original finish, no issues there. I prefer Annivesarios in black, but red is classic Italian so you cant fault it.

    FWIW, I thought you might end up back looking at an Annivesario. Great cars in general, speaking from personal experience, they can (operative word is "can") be the most reliable Countach variant, they are the best finished variant, and they are the best handling variant. That can only spell 'enjoyment for driver'. You could do much worse than own a last-of-a-series Countach. Bodywork by Horacio Pagani, setup by 3-time World Rally Champion Sandro Munari, whats not to like?

    My personal experience with mine was that it was tight & solid on the road, and the controls were crisp & responsive - not always the case with earlier variants. And it had 3 qualities I like in a car: speed, speed, and more speed :)

    Again, I have no affiliation with this Countach Annivesario. Just offering up my thoughts to the benefit of the community in general. Now if only I can get paid per post, I could retire. No wonder I have to write books!

    Keep us posted.
     
  11. topcarbon

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    Thank you, check is in the mail.
     
  12. joe sackey

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    Thank you but seriously no need for that (!), just DYH and let me know if I can help at some point.
     
  13. joe sackey

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    #438 joe sackey, Mar 17, 2012
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    This car.
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  14. blown daytona

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    If that is KLA12626, I looked at that car last year when it was @ Naples Motorsports. They were asking $109K. I guess condition is all personal opinion. I would not stretch new condition on this example, unless paint and mechanical work was done since I have seen it.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    Indeed a small fortune was spent, which is why I suggested earlier that if I were a Countach buyer I would have funds set aside for needs.

    As the saying goes: "Countachs are like Pelicans. They come with big bills".

    O&B were asking $119k, and it sold for $110k so I guess it sold for slightly more than Naples were asking.
     
  16. blown daytona

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    Good to see it finally sold. It was for sale for a couple of years
     
  17. joe sackey

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    #442 joe sackey, Mar 18, 2012
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    Perhaps the tide is turning for this variant? I am hearing of a handful of Annivesarios selling within the last year.

    I sold this one (12670) for $160,000.
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  18. gurslo

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    Joe, any details that make this car stand out and bring that premium?
    Also understanding your post..was this one of cars sold last year, 2011?
     
  19. joe sackey

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    Yes late 2011. One-off livery in Argento/Rosso with huge appeal for some. Of course, its not representative of typical Annivesario values.
     
  20. ken qv

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    Yes, that car needed love which is why it sat so long before it sold.. I don't have a problem with that, these are after all classic cars. I do however have a problem with cars being misrepresented and people driving 4 hours (1 way) to go look at a car.. the dealer not being there to show it at the appointed time and then lying about it having paint work done. Did i mention the dead battery so it wouldn't even start. I personally know 5 people that will never deal with Ooley and Blackburn.
     
  21. Taurean Bull

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    Man, for being the only silver anniversary, it sure does come up a lot. :)

    Roy, if 113 is correct, came in right between your bottom value, and my top, good show.
     
  22. joe sackey

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    That's very unfortunate. My understanding was that the ills were corrected and the new owner is very happy with the deal. Ive had very good luck with O & B, but of course I can only speak for myself. No affiliation with this car either, but I was told details of the deal first-hand.
     
  23. roytoy2003

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  24. key03

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    Hey Roy, This exact car was for sale last May with a Buy-it-now of $125,000. This may be a scam listing or the owner has gone coo coo. :)
     
  25. joe sackey

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    It is a standard LP500S that has been privateer-modified. And yes, that's high! I sold a nice unmodified LP500S for $130,000 plus, and I think some bring more than that...
     

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