Official Countach Value Thread

To be expected, the Aventador is Lamborghini's current production flagship car, the Countach is a classic collectible whose production ended 27 years ago.

The posts are based largely on sightings, if anything, the data shows just how rare a Countach on the streets really is.

 

Thanks for the good info and estimates, Joe and SuperCarGuru.

I dont watch the market that closely, so getting the big picture once or twice a year is appreciated.

 

I must admit I haven't made any summary updates in years, but I'll try and do this annually at the very least, from now on.

 

well if you include the aventador traffic about the board sponsored by con artists, you may already account for the 600K post ! lol...

Seriously, that should not surprise anyone. the latest and fastest and note that in many countires like in Asia, they are very much "new cars". that is a LOT of people and I dont think Fchat is banned there yet.

Cars like countach , muiras and so forth are getting to be a acquired taste. Very much like me for some pre-war cars. At 35, I did not give them a 2nd look.now after many car shows and reads and some aging, it is a bit different.

 

Would you consider the thought of some of these bright young,upp and coming individuals to choose their variant,based on technical specs and personal preference? As in common sense? And or the intended use of the variant you choose,as in The perfect useable car,wich happens to be a Countach?

 

What about DD ANNIVESARIO values ?

 

They were posted right there.


On another topic, Forgive me for saying this but I feel as though most of this thread and many others have been an underlying and at times open circle jerk. Something to boost values and with a lot of misinformation scattered here and there. A lot of times it's been "oh, a car is worth this much because 'blank' and 'blank." without any real world value to back those statements-just optimistic thoughts so people who are selling/trading them can make more money. Many others I know see right through the BS. I consider cars an art form and I think it's sad that eventually some people will achieve their goals of having these get to a point where they are nothing more than a model in a garage to look at and something not driven. I think it's the exact opposite of what Ferrucio would have wanted to see happen to his children. Don't let me speak for him though. We all know what a certain individual did to Miura values recently and through myself and others, the information/promises from that person has a few times been proven to be untrustworthy.
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In the rush to do this I completely spaced out and forgot about them - IMO add $100k to lower & higher numbers.

 

I don't think this thread was started to boost values for anyone, not for owners, and not for people in the trade, it was started to be a resource to track & record values, and reading through it, I don't get any other vibe.

Of course owners and sellers talk values up, and would-be buyers talk them down, but I wouldn't get too excited by that, its a normal market phenomena.

What individual has done something to Miura values recently? I don't think any one individual can do anything to completely affect an entire model's values, and I wonder how information & promises from one person can cause an entire model's values to change?

Please elaborate.

As far as I know Miuras have continued to enjoy strong values all across the variant range from P400 to SV.

BTW, I don't think there is any danger of the cars not being driven as a generality, ever. Of course some people will not drive their cars, but, I think they will remain a minority, and many others always will drive their cars, even when they are worth millions. Think of all the McLaren F1s and 250 GTOs that get driven regularly, a significant number of the latter model are raced regularly. I think with an emerging cottage industry of trusted specialists who can maintain the cars well, you'll actually see more classic Lamborghinis being driven.

 

Countach & Common-sense in the same sentence?!

Seriously, as I said, my experience has been that the younger generation are well-researched, and read all the material available. They focus on the hobby as would-be collectors and this means they long to own some of the more iconic variants. But they also know that some of the more iconic variants can also be very useable. For example, they only have to hop over to the Downdraft thread to witness the number of 100,000-mile cars that underscores the received wisdom that the variant is useable!

That said, Ive never owned a Countach of any variant from LP400 to 25th that I didn't think was useable, so, they are spoilt for choice.

 

talking about the carbed cars only, Joe

 

Good to hear reg the useability, had a guy (a cheeseball in a new yellow Cayman with a matching shirt and hat) making a general comment reg the Countach, These cars should be mounted on the wall,not driven. In wich i replied: have you ever driven one,they are actually really easy to drive, He mumbled something,and walked away, Probably did not make it any better beeing his car got absolutely no att ,sitting next to mine, other than the cheeceness of the triple yellow car,shirt,hat combo,

 

NO they were not "right there" ! You should read before you respond,

 

Thanks for the clarification, Emilio.

 

Really?

I don't presume to tell you how to be a Countach owner but, from my perspective, the Countach is the ultimate expression of an Automotive FU , so Id expect that the guy who owns one could give a Flying F what anyone thinks, especially a triple-yellow Porsche owner who hasn't driven Countach!

Seriously, I would have taken 30 mins to demonstrate the finer points of the Countach's heritage, design, specification & mechanicals to him, followed by an awe-inspiring test run - its part of the job of being a Countach owner. He'd come back a believer, works every time.

 

Well Joe since you want to private message me instead of asking me here all the details in front of everyone....

BTW, I never named any individuals in my post but you seemed to have made the biggest deal out of it and I wonder why that is.

I really hope any of your future Lamborghini clients look up this post and see this along with this thread which I'll get to in a sec:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-cats-exotics/491337-lamborghinis-not-auction.html


Myself and many others know that you were a major, if not the main contributor in boosting Miura values. A car which a few years ago could have almost been reasonable acquired by a true enthusiast. We all know that you sold a couple of Miura's back and forth between different parties-continuously ensuring that the values were posted back and forth for all to see in order to give the impression that values were on the rise, no doubt that they were, but just not to the extent that they would have been without your interference in the market. That's almost fraudulent, IMHO, but what do I know. I get it. Boost interest in the car then pump the values and gain money by capitalizing off of people using you as a broker, etc. I don't think that this is completely terrible, but you've gone as far as to demonize other people's businesses as seen in the thread above. Publish some bad PR, throw bad insults and advice towards another honest working man's business, not once, but multiple times, and then get try to get some sales taken away from him because it's in your best interest. Isn't that sabotage? You've even had a history of calling that person's business and harassing his employees. Does that not prove you have some ulterior motive?


That's where we get to the thread listed above and the other threads on here. You can claim all you want that you're trying to further the history of the Countach, but we all know that's BS. You've continuously posted the same images over and over again with some new information here and there. Downplayed certain cars and made them seem less worthy for silly reasons. And we all know which cars those are. How can you say that cars would be worth more with certain features when the factory and many other alive today from the factories hated the features that you said they'd be worth more with? In these threads, you've answered some questions with misinformation and when confronted with actual values and some other details blown them off. Call it what you want to but there are MANY, MANY people who talk outside of this forum and other and a lot of them know exactly what you're been pulling, it's just a matter of time when people start calling you out for what you've been pulling. How come you don't post on LPower on LTalk? Is it because the members there would call you out on your continuous bull**** and circle jerking of Countach threads, or is it because more people on here look for investments instead of fun cars? It seems like it would benefit your business more here to post on Roy's sponsored forum on FChat than to post on a forum where people are true enthusiasts. If you were truly interested in the history as you said, you'd be posting where the true enthusiasts were, or in multiple places as a few others do.

Restore a Countach or two, post a thread and claim it's not to affect values, publish a petrolicious video with a car that you claim you're not going to sell and then boom, values are up. Many, MANY people called this from the beginning. We'd love to see how it plays out for you, but don't think others don't know what is going on.
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i must have missed the thread from LABrit, did not even know he has my old Countach.

 

You're telling me that one guy pushed up all the Miura prices by yapping on the internet??

It doesn't make sense.

 

There's more to it than that.

 

Actually, yesterday, I did ask you publicly http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/145306312-post5009.html with my comment "What individual has done something to Miura values recently? I don't think any one individual can do anything to completely affect an entire model's values, and I wonder how information & promises from one person can cause an entire model's values to change? Please elaborate."

You came on but didn't respond, so, today I Private Messaged you, basically the same questions.

 

I think he sold it already.

 

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Here is my experience : in 2014 /15 i was skiing in Colorado, Christmas, fulie on e bay in Golden,for sale on e bay,on my way to the sloopes,i, called the guy,was told dont bother coming by,car sold 285$ all gone
Last weekend a similar car was bid to 270 + fees 300 all inn , iow a stabil market(thrue market) wich to me ,is very good.

 

OK what about you telling us that this site is all investors and we are not Countach fans like on the other forums? That doesn't make sense either. You want everyone to be "looking for a fun car..." otherwise they are inferior to guys on forums you like better? This whole thing is weird.