Official Countach Value Thread

Amen

 

Considering a F Testarossa of the same time the CT has definitely proven its value. As a Lambo only guy (car, truck, boat) my next purchase would cross to a F Testarossa beautiful car! I love the cars each independently, mark scores points, but beauty is everlasting.


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Keirmon,
A well sorted Testarossa is in my opinion an iconic car. If you have any questions, feel free to pm me. It took me a few years to find the perfect one but it was worth the wait.

When I find the right Countach, she will be a great companion to my TR.

 

could you use on open road an italian Testarossa? i'm asking because here Testarossa prices are falling down (around 50 K euros, sometimes even less) so i think it's time to send them overseas.
How much there for a good Testarossa?

 

here 150 k (euro) is the average price for good cars. Superb cars some more. Low body between 150 and 200 (just superb cars). Lp400 300 K euros. Here Lowbody and 400 have difficulties to move on open roads due to big road hills (how is the name of those things they put on the road to slow down traffic?), as car touches with front spoiler (S) and bottom engine air intake (all) there is under the car.

 

"Speed Bumps" is what I think you are referring to.

The market is region-specific so prices are very different in the USA compared to Europe. Case in point: an Annivesario here as we have recently seen might be $125k, but the same car might be $175k in Europe. A Countach QV DD might be $175k in the USA and the same car might be $225k in Europe.

Having said all that, with recent economic woes in Europe, that might be changing fast, and this is seen happening already with the price reductions of some other marques as yiou pointed out with the Testarossa.

 

good to perfect anniversario can be bought still under 130k euro here

they are the cheaper version now and they were THE MOST expensive countach some years ago

 

some = 22?

 

Production has something to do with it as there were only ~2000 of all variants of Countach vs. ~10,000 of all variants of the TR and 5-to-1 is huge.

 

Which bares the question: did it really have 400 miles on it?[/QUOTE]

Which is what i was getting at... i think something else was probably going on. I remembered your story of the frozen clutch.

 

I just sold a really nice Euro spec Testarossa that I had for a year along side my Countach. What a thrill to drive them both back to back! No contest as to which was more fun and more of an event though.

 

FWIW 130k Eu = $170k US. That's still a very significant market disparity, even if you compare say a $115k US which can sell for $150k or $160k in Europe! It only confirms that the market is region-specific.

 

Major difference not mentioned:
That 130K EUR car would be an euro downdraft. The other 115K USD car would be a FI.

 

Some years ago the Testarossa was more than a Countach if you compared two equal cars. Same year, mileage, condition. That has indeed changed. Seems that the Testarossa is only dropping in value, and with the Countach it is the very opposite.

 

True.

 

Well, if we wish to get technical, lets also mention that there are TWICE as many DD Annivesarios as there are FI Annivesarios. With the laws of demand-and-supply, one would think FI cars would command a premium over the more prolifically produced DD cars. But, that's simply not the case and the opposite is true, which by itself is exactly the reason for highlighting the fact that the market is region-specific. In other words, certain regions possess a market that seems to defy logic.

Fair enough?

 

I don't believe the euro buyer want to buy a FI in Europe (or import it) if they can have a carbed car instead.
And the US buyer can't even buy a 25th downdraft in the US or Europe and thus have to stay with the FI, if he intend to use it in the US.
The conclusion is that the US buyer have no choice and the euro buyer can have both if so desired.
Just my 2 cents

 

I am not sure that applies. Similar to some other classics that sell ie Hemi cars vs say a 440 6pack or 427 fuelie vs others. The DD car is how the car was designed and will always be worth more. Supply/Demand isn't quite as relevant in this case. I assume few would choose a FI car over a proper DD car given the choice.

 

Like Countachs, there is a variant in pricing regarding which TR you have. Naturally, the condition, mileage etc. all comes into play. The later years TR's (88.5 to 91) demand more of a higher price because IMHO they are better cars.

That being said, even though 7177 were produced, how many remain that are well sorted, pristine examples. I love my TR. I would never think of selling her. To me she is priceless, in part because of the journey I made through my life to be able to buy one. Everyone's journey is different and everyone has a different story.

 

The Testarossa market, has little in the way of different values, attached to minor variations.

Mechanical and cosmetic condition and external colors, are bigger factors, in assessing the true value of a car.

Every six years, approximately 15/20% of the car's value, will go into paying the bill for a major service.

 

True.

But by your very logic you make my point for me.

If the USA buyer is forced to have just the FI, and there are only a limited amount of those, you'd think they would bring more in the USA. Also, if the Eu buyer can have both FI & DD, you'd think the increased supply to the Eu buyer would mean prices would be suppressed. But its exactly the opposite. That is my point.....

 

Time will tell.

 

Well, they (the FI) seem not limited in numbers compared to the number of buyers, IMO.
That's the reason you see a significant amount of FI 25ths available, or they are priced wrongly.