Official Countach Value Thread

I believe it remained here in the USA per images I have seen recently.

I really do not know.

 

Love these cars in silver.. if it wasn’t an S2 I would have bought that car from Roy a long time ago..but damn it I don’t fit
In low body’s.

 

MAN! Look at that thing! I have only seen a 25th in silver but it was enough to win me over. On any other version, must be spectacular. Ferrari has “resell red”.. maybe Lambo can start “resell silver”. LOL

 

That’s not Roy’s S2.

 

#112.1260 sold by RM at Petersen museum at Hammer for $ 330,000

 

Correct, it will remain in the USA.

 

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Chassis number available?

 

Chassis # 12777

 

Chrome wheels. Not for me. But silver is lovely
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What about Ferrari? Why did they stop making carburated cars in 1982? Should the Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer have remained Carburated during its production run because its began that way? Is the FI Berlinetta Boxer now less desirable because it is actually period-correct?

The original concept of the Countach called for 5.0L V12 with output of 400 plus hp. The QV FI fulfills that requirement very well. The QV FI is period-correct to have FI in the mid-80s. What if the Countach had been produced until, say 1997? Should a 1997 Countach still be Carburated? Just because it started out in 1974 with carburetors does not justify it having to be limited to just that for its production run.

How can you state that the Fuelie only came about because of the USA government threatening to prevent the sale? It would be more accurate to say that the potential loss of US market share was what finally forced Lamborghini to update their engine. This is evident by what happened in 1990: the Diablo has the Fuelie engine... where is the Carburated one? Is that the USA government's fault also?

 

Here is another opinion on what the proper hierarchy should be:

1. 1974-1977 Lamborghini Countach ~ 158 produced
2. 1985-1988 Lamborghini Countach QV DD ~ 380 produced
3. 1985-1988 Lamborghini Countach QV FI ~ 230 produced
4. 1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 1 (Bravo wheels - low body) ~ 50 produced
5. 1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 2 ~ 105 produced
6.1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 3 ~ 82 produced
7. 1982-1985 Lamborghini Countach 5000 S ~ 321 produced
8. 1989-1990 25th Anniversary DD & FI ~ 658 produced

 

I'll focus on the one question that is relevant:

Yes, the Fuelie 512 Boxer is worth significantly less in the market than the Carbureted 365 BB or 512 BB, this example, and that of many many more, underscores the desirability of carbureted cars.

Good list, fair enough, IMO needs some fettling, perhaps a rebuild with new gaskets, re-jetting & tuning:

Here's my experienced view based on 35 years experience and involvement in the market 24/7/365 reflecting what I'm asked for day in and day out:

1. 1974-1977 Lamborghini Countach ~ 150 produced
2. 1985-1988 Lamborghini Countach QV DD ~ @ 300 produced
3. 1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 1 (Bravo wheels - low body) ~ 50 produced
4. 1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 2 ~ 105 produced
5.1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 3 ~ 82 produced
6. 1982-1985 Lamborghini Countach 5000 S ~ 321 produced
7. 1989-1990 25th Anniversary DD & FI ~ 658 produced
8. 1985-1988 Lamborghini Countach QV FI ~ @ 300 produced

 

Cool VIN, i assume the prefix is "FLA".

 

I should update my opinions/transactions as we have been involved in about 6-7 more Countach sales since the last post!

I will say I believe Joes hierarchy is actually SPOT on.

 

I love those low production numbers. We are lucky owners.

 

Surely you mean DLA or ELA, it's an LP500S.

I appreciate that John, and will say that my own heirachy list gets updated and changes with the times, as any list should, nothing is constant.

 

An early Series 2 car, is so undervalued.

So what. Only the owner know's what he has.

 

Recently, 25th Anniversary asking prices are almost always less than a QV FI.

The number of Countach FI produced should be approximately 1/3 of 610, not half. It is not realistic to allocate 50% of Countach QV production to the U.S. and Canada markets. If that was the case then today's North American market share has declined drastically.
In 2016, Lamborghini's total sales were reported as being 3,457 units, of which 1,041 units were registered in the U.S. (30.11% for US).
https://www.motor1.com/news/133209/lamborghini-2016-sales-report/

Your list appears to be of the most desirable Carburated Countachs... with the QV FI inserted at the end. If this is really what you are seeing with your involvement in the market then the QV FI is incredibly overlooked and misunderstood. The QV FI is even more rare than a 288 GTO and the fact that a 288 GTO, F40 and 959 are "fuelies" does not hamper demand for those cars. Those "Fuelies" are clearly significantly more expensive that a Carburated Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer. By 1985, the Countach should have been FI-only based on the auto industry. FI engines are more costly to build than carburated ones so its no wonder that Lamborghini did not switch over everything to FI if they could avoid that and save money until the Diablo was released. 455 hp is achievable with the FI engine, however, its output is about 8% less due to emissions equipment. The bumpers and emission add-ons were unfortunate but are reversible. The FI engine is a rare and sough-after aspect of the Countach for a potential buyer. These cars can be corrected to be as they were intended by Lamborghini. In addition, the QV FI interior is the true Countach interior - unlike a 25th Anniversary.

 

These are all uppsides,and common knoweledge, fantastic opportunity for a true Countach enthusiast to get the mighty Qv of his dreams, and for someone who has lost some of his enthusiasme,,to sell and move on, most qv buyers i know of, incl me, dd or fi, bought their cars at significantley less money. And will be able to walk avay with a little pocket change. Iow buy your qv, drive and enjoy. As of now,fi the amazing qv, less $ enntry, same fun, lots of room reg appreciation, also less loosing risk$ if the whole car thing tanks. As John H said amazing value, Although some heavy hitters are putting big money in restoring qv fi as we speak, they might be all wrong,what do i know(not much acc to Sackey lol) I see the interest on my own car, local offers, they are pretty good. Not DD adverticed price good,but pretty good. But as Pinechris said,in order to make mony,one have to sell,and i am not selling, There is a very nice dark dark green car out there for sale,by a very influental Car guy(the true meaning of the word) will be very interestin to see where this goes, i know he does not need the money, and its not cheap. Again ,buy the car you like and can afford, there is plenty of pros and cons to each variant. Skål

 

I think you are making stuff up as you go along based on little more than how you think it should be, as opposed to how it is factually.

As regards rarity, anyone with any experience knows that you can't use that as any type of logical values guideline, otherwise, why isn't the Lamborghini Silhouette of which @ 54 were made, 3 times as valuable as the Miura SV of which 150 were made?

Are you in the business of selling Countach's full-time to be able to determine which variants are currently sought-after?

I am.

As I said, my involvement in the market 24/7/365 reflecting what I'm asked for day in and day out is as follows in order of most-requested and/or desirable:

1. 1974-1977 Lamborghini Countach ~ 150 produced
2. 1985-1988 Lamborghini Countach QV DD ~ @ 300 produced
3. 1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 1 (Bravo wheels - low body) ~ 50 produced
4. 1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 2 ~ 105 produced
5.1978-1981 Lamborghini Countach S series 3 ~ 82 produced
6. 1982-1985 Lamborghini Countach 5000 S ~ 321 produced
7. 1989-1990 25th Anniversary DD & FI ~ 658 produced
8. 1985-1988 Lamborghini Countach QV FI ~ @ 300 produced

A colleague and sometimes competitor of mine agreed as above, entirely, stating "I will say I believe Joes hierarchy is actually SPOT on"

You can have a different opinion, but the reality is, mine is based on current day-to-day trading.

FWIW I actually think the Downdraft will become more sought-after than the LP400 from a drive-ability standpoint.

Who are all these heavy-hitters putting money into restoring Fuelies?

Have you personally inspected the dark green Fuelie closely?

Are you speaking of Bruce Canepa's influence in the car community?

It's for sale, how do you know the owner of that car does not need the money?