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  1. bob massaroni

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    May 26, 2019
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    I use Synthetic oil and my mechanic tells me I need to change it annually. I drive it less than 1,000 miles a year and usually end up adding 3-4 quarts during the year and the oil looks real clean. Is it really necessary to change the oil annually? Otherwise, what is the yearly service required on a 1990 348?
     
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  3. BT

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    I would say no. There is an argument that water builds up in the oil, but if you are driving 1,000 miles (hopefully with some gusto), you should boil the water out regularly when you drive.
     
  4. WATSON

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    You add 3 - 4 quarts during 1,000 miles of driving?

    Spending $100 annually for some PM and an oil change is a concern how?
     
  5. A348W

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    Jun 28, 2017
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    I’d say, no it’s not necessary; but for the cost why wouldn’t you?

    With the added benefit somebody is looking over your car; as with any car that is circa 30 year old cars they will need constant fettling.

    As to the service interval; it’s in your manual; and oil is annual.
     
  6. kenneyd

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    I would say if your car burns 3-4 quarts during the year that's about 12 quarts every 3,000 mi. I don't think you ever need to do an oil change...ever. Maybe an engine change, but not an oil change
     
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  8. kryten2001

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    Technically no you don't, but if it's got awesome service history then you may want to keep it up for the next owner.

    However as others have said, I agree. You burn 3 quarts in 1,000 miles?

    Either your engine is knackered, you have a bad leak, or you are doing the infamous f355 "overfill".

    If the latter don't worry, we're all guilty of it.
     
  9. Beetle

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    Read manual. Check engine oil at running temp. While eng is running or directly after shutting down. I use a glove and check while running. That is huge oil consumption
     
  10. AceMaster

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    3-4 quarts for that minimal driving seems excessive.
     
  11. Wingnut

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    My E-type leaks a quart or so per year. My garage floor is proof! But it's a Jag, and that's what they do.
    It would trouble me if my Mondial t (same engine as the 348) required more top-ups than the E-type.
     
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  13. zstyle

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    Typically, for any car, engine oil is once per year while other fluids like brake, coolant, etc are every two years. Other items like diff and trans can be extend for several years and typically based on mileage. Although Ferraris are more time based than mileage based.

    Losing a quart of oil every 250 miles is a major concern. How are you checking the oil level when you add the oil?
     
  14. emac

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    If you are driving your car that limited mileage, I would be more worried about brake fluid than oil. I have several cars that sit for extended times with limited mileage. I have had more issues with fuel and brake fluid than anything else. Sitting is tough on a car.

    I have been changing brake fluid every two years and making notes when the fuel tank was last filled on my cars. I always use non ethanol with stabil, but try and put fresh fuel in them every year. I have also heated and cooled my shop and put in a dehumidifier. Here in SC we get a lot of humidity. That humidity is hard on brake fluid and gas tanks.

    I have become the guy that I used to make fun of when I was young.......the guy with nice cars that never drives them!
     
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  15. A348W

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    Agree on the brake guild and gas. Key to the latter as you know is keeping the tank topped up to minimise oxygen and possible condensation. (local lawnmower place says 80% of repairs are due to gummed up carbs from rubbish fuel,)

    A quart per 250 mild is a lot. Think the manual says 1/2 to 1/4 of that is normal.
     
  16. Ferrarium

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    And even then its excessive, I suspect they just say that to prevent rebuilds in the event of poor assembly or user doing something to cause wear like run the oil level way too low for too long.
     
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  17. GSF355

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    Fresh oil never hurts, it's cheap easy maintenance. I always change oil at least once a year, more often if doing track days or higher mileage.
     
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  18. KevZep

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    Why is your mechanic not advising you on the horrendous oil consumption, assuming of course you are checking the oil correctly.
     
  19. bob massaroni

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    The oil change is $450. Do you change your own oil? I should probably learn how.
     
  20. WATSON

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    Is that what they charge now? Getting up there.

    Yes, I do most of my own work.
     
  21. Wade

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    Too easy. Follow the steps here and heed the warnings as well.

    http://www.my348.com/348.html#Oil
     
  22. 348Jeff

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    Are you sure it's not leaking oil rather than it being "consumed"????
     
  23. joe1973

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    I take my 355 for oil changes every other year. Indy work to include filter change. Between those years, I flush/fill at home. My thinking mirrors previous posts that a trusted mechanic might spot other issues. With 25yr old cars, bigger issues are brake, coolant and trans fluid maintenance IMHO.
     
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