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Open source virtual Fchat-designprocess: NEW DINO

Discussion in 'Detailing & Showroom' started by Michiel Mobiel, May 20, 2006.

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  1. Ernesto Freitas

    Ernesto Freitas Karting

    Aug 6, 2006
    95
    Portugal
    Hello.

    Well, I will be the first one to give my face…

    I don’t have any final renderings to show, unfortunately!

    The last few weeks were very busy, and still are, so I was unable to work on this project!
    I hope you understand that in the next weeks I will not be able to post any designs… Sorry!

    I can’t be more sincere then this!

    Regards from Portugal,
    Ernesto Freitas
     
  2. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
    17,667
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    Tone Def
    Possibly this is true for everyone that has posted ideas on this thread. Suggestion, we should wait until January to see the final submissions, and then vote before February.

    Does this work for everyone?
     
  3. Ernesto Freitas

    Ernesto Freitas Karting

    Aug 6, 2006
    95
    Portugal
    It works fine for me! Thanks!

    Regards from Portugal,
    Ernesto Freitas
     
  4. mercedesbenze55amg

    mercedesbenze55amg Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2004
    735
    Plymouth Ma.
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    J. Nutter
    Hello everyone, I have been looking at the various designs and tried to critique on a aero sense ernestos because it seems to be the "winning model" First and foremost earnesto please do not take this as a insult, its just me looking at this in a aero sense. The main concern is lack of cooling and heat extraction. While some can be hidden in the "underbody" some must be shown, heat rises so it must escape somehow. Especially in the front the twin radiator (assuming its following the 360 in basic engine layout) must have some extractor of some sort, may it be in the fender walls or out right before the windshield. also, the front spoiler the way the middle is arched, that will cause aerodynamic instability. Side works generally, just watch out to the angle in which the fenders flair out, direction of airflow is key. As for the back, the exhaust placement in the middle surrounded by the diffusers, where the exhaust exits there is a substancial lack of downforce, and since heat rises the middle of the car will rise, while i see you tried to correct that with the twin diffusers, i beleave a twin exhaust system coming out of each side would work better, due to the downforce then being centered over the center point of the rearend. Besides that, just be careful of the way the cab is made, the very bubbly look creates the aero properties of a wing (the shape of a car already is a airfoil) cut it down, increase the angle of the A piller to offset the airfoil effect. If you have any questions feel free to contact me via PM, as with anyone else on the team ~ Best N
     
  5. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Thanks! Very useful!

    All questions are best to be answered in public for all designers and public to learn from.
    If you have any suggestions on any posted design, don't hesitate to tell.
     
  6. Fuoriserie

    Fuoriserie Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2006
    412
    Italy
    Congratulations to the winner..
     
  7. mercedesbenze55amg

    mercedesbenze55amg Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2004
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    Plymouth Ma.
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    J. Nutter
    not saying its the winner, im saying it has gotten the most commotion in the positive sense, im just going one design at a time, if you would like me to review your design on a aero stand point i will gladly :-D
     
  8. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Another problem that could occur in Ernesto's design is the same as what happened to the 360.
    The gap in the 360 shoulder was positioned exactly in the position where a vortex from the rearviewmirror entered the hole.
    That was very bad for cooling.

    This was solved with the F430 redesigning the mirror and by giving the gap that strange new shape.
    I think that solutions doesn't look very good.

    It will be safer to move the gap lower to the side of the car.
     
  9. Fuoriserie

    Fuoriserie Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2006
    412
    Italy
    I had my new final design ready to show, but after reading your post, I came to the conclusion that you're right.....

    We do have a winner, so will end my participation now....

    Good luck guys, will lurk in once in awhile when I have time, to follow the progress.
    Ciao
     
  10. mercedesbenze55amg

    mercedesbenze55amg Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2004
    735
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    J. Nutter
    Im sorry for that misunderstanding. We do not have a winner, infact many people still want to submit designes myself included. we are going to submit them sometimes in January
     
  11. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Wait up!
    We don't have a winner yet!
    All concepts must be collected first before we decide which to develope.
    Some of my first renderings are also still in competition and possibly we choose some details from other concepts.
     
  12. Bugattiart

    Bugattiart F1 Veteran

    Mar 8, 2004
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    In my mind the winner is definately found in the beautiful sketch done by Ernesto! No doubt at all!!!
    You could make a poll to find out what others think!!!
     
  13. mercedesbenze55amg

    mercedesbenze55amg Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2004
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    Regardless if it is thought to be most popular, i think we should see everyones, because tidbits here and there from other peoples designs can influence it and also improve it
     
  14. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    I absolutely agree!

    and....
    I'm curious about your design.
     
  15. mercedesbenze55amg

    mercedesbenze55amg Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2004
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    mine is aimed twords progression with some cues to the dino but also the modern ferrari such as the enzo and 612
     
  16. Fuoriserie

    Fuoriserie Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2006
    412
    Italy
    I agree with you.........just received the new voting poll, and you won!.:D

    Michiel, you've now got your new Dino design, don't waste more time..........and by the way, I didn't know we had cheerleaders in here....:)

    Good luck with your GTO
    Ciao
    Italo
     
  17. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    No I don't, It's not done yet.
    And it is not supposed to be MY design, but OUR collaborative design.
    So please don't leave now and stay tuned during the rest of the process.
    There is still a lot to be done after we've chosen the concept.
     
  18. mercedesbenze55amg

    mercedesbenze55amg Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2004
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    agreed, anything from a air intake to a small chrome piece is going to be designed by all of us. Your artistic talent has not been ignored, Actually my design (which will be posted tonight or tomorrow) took some cues from your design (ie overall shape) So please stay on the team, the more minds the better. And yes we do have cheerleaders but they are cheering EVERYONE on to creativly think not just Ernesto, or Michiel or myself. I came in late LATE in the game. Dont be discouraged due to someone saying they like the design or dont like yours. Continue to worko on the dino project with us so that it can TRULY give tribute to the Dino.
     
  19. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Well said.
    Nothing more to add.
     
  20. e_t_s

    e_t_s Rookie

    Mar 31, 2006
    23
    Jeez! What's up with all this kindergarden-*****ing?! Just because someone like Ernestos designs (I do, but definitely not all of them) doesn't mean that nobody likes yours Fuori!
    I think some of the ideas in your very big pile of designs are very good, and as others point out, very welcome additions to the final car.

    Ernestos designs are great, but still not finished (obviously, since they're just sketches), and the same applies to all the sketches seen so far. The design is nowhere near done, we haven't even decided on the basis yet!

    Don't wimp out yet, the more proposals we have in the end, the better the overall design will be...

    And that's all for now, keep up the good work, this is the page I look most forward to check out every day...

    (a little censorship never hurt anyone... the stars in the top is supposed to say a word starting with B, describing people who whine too much...)
     
  21. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    I think what e_t_s is trying to say is: please don't be insecure and just enjoy being a part of the team during a long process of designing, discussing, deleting and finetuning. ;)
     
  22. e_t_s

    e_t_s Rookie

    Mar 31, 2006
    23
    Well, yeah that is what I'm saying...

    Sorry for being a bit aggressive, I just got surprised at how Fuoriserie was giving up.

    Forget it, just keep the good designs coming!
     
  23. e_t_s

    e_t_s Rookie

    Mar 31, 2006
    23
    #1299 e_t_s, Dec 5, 2006
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    Lately I've been playing around with my own car. Not any particular make or model, just for inspiration.

    Enjoy, and steal all you would want!
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  24. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Nice!
    Why haven't you shown us stuff like this before?
     

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