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  1. mdempsey

    mdempsey Karting

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    OK, had the car out for a spell the other day. I am considering getting the car painted to its original color - Celeste Gainesborough 2.443.625 (pale or sky blue) . Any thoughts? Any pics of this color? (is this the color shown on Page 71 of Original Ferrari V-12) Any pics of a 365 GT 2 + 2 in this color? Was this a metallic color?

    The original interior was black (nero) which I have.

    This should be fun. Let's get some opinions.

    As some of you know we are RED right now!! I love it but maybe I want a change??
     
  2. Jeff Kennedy

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    Make the color change if you are going to repaint anyway. I do not think that the Queen Mother in red is a good color for the body. I also find diversity in the car colors, as they were originally produced, to be much more interesting than a sea of resale red.

    Jeff
     
  3. Todd Helme

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    Mark you car is so gorgeous as it is (probably one my favorite all time cars that I have worked on)!

    That said you can never go wrong with original, IMO. I saw a picture of a 365 2+2 that was sky blue, let me look for it.
     
  4. mfwpb

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    #4 mfwpb, Dec 13, 2008
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    I think Celeste is a great choice. My C/4 is Azzurro Hyperion 2.443.648. Very close to Celeste. My interior is a light beige. I do not think black is best for that particular exterior color but original is original. Marcello
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  5. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #5 Marcel Massini, Dec 13, 2008
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    This chart is for the 275 GTBs. The 365 GT 2+2s were built by Pininfarina, not by Scaglietti.
    Marcel Massini
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  6. judge4re

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    Great reference! Do you have a similar deck for the Pininfarina colours?
     
  7. Marcel Massini

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    I have approx. 15 of these color charts from the 50s up until the 90s. Will dig 'em out.
    Marcel Massini
     
  8. judge4re

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    Thank you!
     
  9. mdempsey

    mdempsey Karting

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    Thanks for all the quick info! Is it a metallic color? Marcel?
     
  10. mdempsey

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    Also, hard to tell exactly which one on the wheel is the Celeste??
     
  11. Marcel Massini

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    #11 Marcel Massini, Dec 13, 2008
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    Mark
    Azzurro la Plata is the light blue one. Go TWO to the right and you will find Celeste Chiaro Metallizzato 106-A-26. HOWEVER: This Celeste here is NOT the one YOU need because yours is Celeste Gainsborough 2.443.625. Close but not identical. Yes, metallic.
    Marcel Massini
     
  12. poppy84

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    Mr.Massini,

    how can I know if my 512 BB (C/N 20017) was originally painted in a full rosso chiaro or in the characteristic two tone paint? Actually the car is full rosso.

    Best
     
  13. regaliaconcours

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  14. judge4re

    judge4re F1 World Champ

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    Get the color certificate from the factory. Details on the owner's website.
     
  15. Marcel Massini

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    Mike: KOOL! Looks great!! Congratulations.

    15753:
    11th December 1972 completed.
    Assembly sequence #923.
    Original exterior color: Celeste 106-A-16.
    Original interior color: Rosso 3171 VM.
    Delivered new to Chinetti-Garthwaite.

    Marcel Massini
     
  16. regaliaconcours

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    Thanks Marcel, I've owned her since 1998, bought her 1yr after 4891. Finishing the cosmetic restoration as we speak. 23K orig. miles(bought with 18k). Mike
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    It will look great with red leather!
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  18. regaliaconcours

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    #18 regaliaconcours, Dec 15, 2008
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    Marcel, I love this color combination on the Daytona, I've never seen another just like it. Mike
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  19. Marcel Massini

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    #19 Marcel Massini, Dec 15, 2008
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    Mike
    Only 24 Daytonas were painted Celeste 106-A-16 originally.
    These 24 cars came with interior in Rosso 3171, Rosso Scuro 893, Nero 8500, Nuvola 3015 and Blu 3282.
    However, there were only two of the 24 Celeste Daytonas that had the Rosso 3171 interior: #12825 and #15753.
    Marcel Massini
     
  20. regaliaconcours

    regaliaconcours Formula Junior

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    I bow to the KING! Thanks Marcel, I knew it was unique. In all my years around Ferrari's I have never seen another Daytona like it. The interior photo is a bit off on the color due to the flash(the true color is way less orange/brite), but you get the idea. Thanks Again........ Mike
     
  21. mdempsey

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    And it is being painted as we speak (after nearly a year of prep). Color should be about on. and yes back to original Celeste gainsborough. Will come out at FCA Nationals....more to come.

    PS drove it across country last oct to deliver to Zac to oversee job.

    Mark
     
  22. John Vardanian

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    Would someone please post pictures of cars in these three colors? It is really hard to tell from Marcel's chart what these colors really look like. Thanks in advance.

    john

    Bleu Chario Metallizzato
    Celeste Chiaro Metallizzato
    Azzurro Metallizzato
     
  23. PAUL BABER

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    #23 PAUL BABER, Sep 5, 2012
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    Hi John........Please find attached but accept my apologies for far from perfect photos. I have chosen these as I believe the paint is original on each car. Further note paint shades changed through different manufacturers over the ages.......I am thinking that Celeste circa late 1970's was slightly lighter than Celeste in the early 1960's. However I hope this gives you a a good enough idea.

    CELESTE... 250 GT Lusso 5279 GT
    AZZZURO... 275 GTB 8047 GT
    BLEU CHIARO... 365 GTB/4 16625
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  24. tongascrew

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    Find the best restoration or hot rod shop in your area and show them a color chart or card of the color you want. They should have a computer program that can match the color of your choice. This program should ,for example, be able to match a ten year old slightly faded paint color where the original factory color would not be correct. tongascrew
     
  25. John Vardanian

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    Thank you Paul, this is helpful. I am serachiung for a color in these lines for my car.

    john
     

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