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Discussion in 'Australia' started by PAP 348, Feb 16, 2006.

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  1. j15

    j15 F1 Rookie

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    So is everyone else using factory parts?
     
  2. Aircon

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    usually i do, but i haven't always and would happily entertain other sources.
     
  3. stephens

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    You're not "paying" the R&D team, hence the product is cheaper, you are part of the R&D process.
     
  4. ashsimmonds

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    that's what i meant, if not stuffing factory parts in your automobilia
     
  5. F40LMGTC

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    So your part of the R & D. So your paying for someone else to benefit from your experiences.
     
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    As does the customer. I may be different, but I'll put up with a bit of stuffing around to get a better quality part at a significantly cheaper price.
     
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    Hey Pap, looks like you get and hour with madame lash. :):)
     
  8. ferrarifixer

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    Gil, I'm not insulted. I buy masses of genuine parts. In fact this year alone I've spent over $50,000 already on genuine Ferrari engine parts for the several (4) 360C engine rebuilds/upgrades I'm doing/have done. This is an exception, but I think and hope it shows I agree that original parts are usually the best option.

    But this clutch job is just one of many that I've done. And ALL the others have been perfect first time and I've had no failures or problems of any kind until now.

    Clutches are like brakes... the R&D is done by experts in major companies, and we just apply it to Ferrari, I'm doing nothing new, just tailoring it (trying!)to fit a Ferrari.

    Pap's clutch is massively frustrating, but the problem is small. The new one is already nearly finished, and will be on it's way ASAP.

    If I had had the car in my shop, I would have noticed it and dealt with it in a minimum of fuss, but in this case that wasn't possible.

    This job is doubly frustrating, as I've just done a std organic 348 clutch, but it's all back together already, and the car is in my storage facility.

    I'm not making excuses... it's a cock up on my and my suppliers behalf, but despite that, I know Pap will eventually get immense confidence, satisfaction and value from having it.

    I'm NEVER going to buy another Ferrari clutch, EVER, unless the customer specifically requests it for time or originality reasons, unless Ferrari prices get real.

    ALL the clutches I've made have been because std Ferrari ones have failed. 308's blow the linings off if revved too high, 550 ones do a similar thing, 348's break diaphragms, 512 Boxers wear unevenly ansd 365 Boxers slip prematurely.... Mostly, if the car is used at the top end of it's designed use, but still std cars with std BHP doing "normal" things for Ferraris to do.
     
  9. ferrarifixer

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    How much does she charge...
     
  10. moretti

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    $120 ....... so I'm told :rolleyes:

    wait, that was back in 88 :D
     
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    well, the compo I'm giving pap will mean he'll need to book a day off for the "service", and maybe another to recover!
     
  12. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Thanks Phil. :D You are not sending me here by any chance? :p


    http://www.monalisamodels.com.au
     
  13. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    I dunno Gil. Ive been in the car game for 7years now and "non genuine" parts is a big business. And 99% of the time,the parts are just as reliable as the genuine parts. The only genuine part ill really worry about using with the 348 would probably be the filters. And who says ferrari makes their own ferrari parts??? Do they?? My broken clutch was an AP clutch. The tie riod ends/ball joints/steering racks/brakes ect......... would not be made by them. They would use a company to make them,that also makes them for everycar on the road and then box them in the yellow ferrari box and charge 500% more,for the part that you think will last over a non genuine ferrari part. Its just the way it goes. You wont believe how many customers ive had over the years,that have strictly said to use genuine parts on their cars. Alot of money spent for nothing. When the other 75% of customers use non genuine parts and have never had a drama also :p Alot of the non genuine parts offer the same,if not better warranty on the part than the genuine one also.
    You get my drift anyways. lol :D See how we go with this clutch :)
     
  14. GTRMagic

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    Hey Mr Dee Jay....
    They are nearly as expensive as a genuine Ferrari clutch... and that's only for one hour!!
     
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    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    How about the $50K one?? :D Christ! :p
     
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    Hey Mr Dee Jay....
    Well they will rent you the $6,000 per hour person for 12 months for only $1.9million...

    That's an interesting way to spend a lotto win :D
     
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    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    What a bargin! :D
     
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    I mean seriously, if one could afford to spend that much on an escort, I'm sure there'd be a line of gold diggers just as good looking as the 'model' escort, willing to marry the guy!
     
  19. GTRMagic

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    Hey Mr Dee Jay....
    In NSW, if the partners are together for 6 months, upon their split, they are each entitled to half the assets

    Presuming you rented the company of this lady for 12 months, she may well be entitled to 1/2 of everything you own when she departs... AND the $1.9 million!!!
     
  20. RMV

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    :D Great!

    FWIW, if they got married, they'd fall under Federal jurisdiction (i.e. the Family Law Act), and she would not get anywhere near half (probably close to nothing, actually), as the Family Court considers 'financial and non-financial contributions' made by both parties to the joint assets during the marriage, and what assets each party brings to the marriage. In other words, the shorter the period of the marriage, the less the party who brings the least assets to the marriage gets. The longer the marriage, and if there are children, then the larger proportion of the joint assets the non-financially contributing spouse (usually the woman) gets. In cases involving 'special skills', that is, where the husband is usually a self made multi-millionaire, the wives tend to get only roughly 30% of the joint assets in settlement (in one case after a 30 odd year marriage with three kids: Ferraro), because the Court gives hefty weight to the contribution of the self-made husband during the marriage (or prior to the marriage; will get much, much less than 30%). Where the spouses are professionals/workers, you usually find the split is more 50/50, where married for years, and there are children involved. Sometimes the wives get a significant proportion of the property (sometimes the whole house) where the husband is a high earner, and she has sacrificed her own career to stay at home with the kids.

    In the case of defactos, they fall under State jurisdiction, in Victoria the Property Law Act (and the NSW Property Law Act). In Victoria, the defacto couple must have been together for at least two years (living together in a relationship which is sexual and not based merely on friendship, care/assistance, etc) before a non-financially contributing party can really get anything in a property settlement. I thought it was two years in NSW (I forget now), but if you say it’s six months, fair enough. Where there is division of property, it's usually along the same lines as in the Family Court (the Court considers the length of relationship, assets brought to the relationship, financial and non-financial contributions made during the relationship, children etc.). Essentially, for the Courts it’s all one big balancing act.

    So, in conclusion, you won’t automatically lose half of your property just because you were with a gold digger for a short period of time. Actually, I think the court considers anything less than 5 years, a short marriage (from memory).

    Believe me, the gold digger in the joke scenario above would get no where near half (probably close to nothing, actually) of the rich guy’s assets if they were married or defacto in NSW for 6 months. :)
     
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    rather pay 7 figgers for someone to NOT marry me
     
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    Luckily, I don't have to pay any lady one red cent not to marry me; they're happy to not do it for free!
     
  23. FFOUR

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    time to find a nice man then.....
     
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    Isnt PP looking for a soul mate :p
     
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    fixed punctuation to reflect noncorporeal circumstances.
     

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