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  1. NaO

    NaO Karting

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  2. Bob Parks

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    Heck ! I am disappointed. I thought that you were talking a bout a Luscombe Phantom at first. They are neat airplanes in spite of having the little wheel in the back.
     
  3. Tcar

    Tcar F1 Rookie

    I am too...

    That's a Phantom II.
    Thought you were talking about the McDonnell FH-1 Phantom... Navy's first jet fighter.
     
  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    T- Quite a ways from the first.

    Having a few sorties in F-4Gs and RF-4Cs, I can tell you nobody wants to pay for the fuel that goes into and comes out of an F-4 in only one sortie.
     
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  5. Wade

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    The O&M costs would be horrific! Hope someone has too much money to burn. :)
     
  6. ralfabco

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    I think it takes 17 hours for an experienced crew to pull and replace the engine. The infared pod under the nose was removed. I love the Pig.
     
  7. jcurry

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    Given the restoration is not yet complete, including engine OH, the entry price is a bit more than $3.95M. That is still probably cheap compared to O&M.

    Me too!
     
  8. Jacob Potts

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    Hmmm . . .

    54 mph in a Ferrari 275 GTB along the New Jersey Turnpike: $4 million

    Your buddy in his Gulfstream 5 cruises at Mach .9. You pass him at 1,000 mph in your own F-4 Phantom II. In fact, you barrel roll around him as you pass him: $4 million

    Which would be more thrilling?
     
  9. ralfabco

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    You need jet time to qualify as PIC. The jet fuel will cost a fortune. Help me out - is it 1400 pounds of fuel for just the preflight and taxi.

    Maintainenece will be more than the F car and Gulfstream. Wade knows about the maintainenece on a two engine fighter ! I agree with your views.
     
  10. Gatorrari

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    A jet would be nice, but even an F-86 would be fun enough. An F-4 would definitely be overkill.
     
  11. beast

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    Your FBO will be happy that you purchased a Phantom II;) As for the people living around the airport not so much..
     
  12. tazandjan

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    F-4s at take-off in full A/B are wondrous, especially a two ship. At least to most of us.
     
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  13. Bisonte

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    Yep, I have some fun memories of watching exactly that from the beach at Hickam as a kid in Hawaii. Nightfall made the lit afterburners look even cooler.
     
  14. Gatorrari

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    I remember when both the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds were flying F-4s. Those were loud airshows!
     
  15. tritone

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    Yeah...."A Ferrari would be nice, but even a V8 would be fun enough. A V-12 would definitely be overkill. Said no one, ever. :p:D
     
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  16. Tcar

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    And they never had to add smoke...
     
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  17. donv

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    Then you go and land back home, while your buddy continues on to Europe while still having burned less fuel on his entire trip than you burned on your joyride!
     
  18. ralfabco

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    I saw them in 1972 - when I was a kid.

    F-4J.

    I had the program with the bios laying around for years.
     
  19. Chupacabra

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    How many pounds per hour?
     
  20. beast

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  23. tazandjan

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    My F-111s burned about 12,000 lbs/hr at around 480 KTAS low level, or 120,000 lbs/hr supersonic low level in burner. F-4 would be a bit higher with straight J79s.

    Incidentally, USAF incorporated smokeless kits into the F-4s later in their service life. Much harder to find after that.
     
  24. tritone

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    Plenty of good F-4 anecdotes in "PALACE COBRA", by Ed Rasimus ©2006
     
  25. ralfabco

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    I 'believe' the bureau number was changed.
     

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