News

Pierre Bardinon collection

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by F328GTS/GTB, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

    Apr 13, 2007
    3,603
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Full Name:
    Mario
    Wasn't the sale of the 335S meant to pay for those succession rights?
     
  2. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
    10,386
    FRANCE
    Yes, at least in part. But it would be very difficult to know at what amount the collection was evaluated, who decided on the value of each car, to what extent did the tax administration agree on these values (or did they dispute these?)
    What was the evaluation of the whole estate, and how much would the succession rights be. I would be surprised that the sale of one car, even a very significant one, could cover the total amount...

    Rgds
     
    readplays likes this.
  3. GIOTTO

    GIOTTO F1 Rookie
    Consultant

    Dec 30, 2006
    2,907
    FRANCE
    Pierre Bardinon sold a lot of cars before he died. In the mid 80's there were still 25 or 30 cars (Ferrari) in the collection. The money from the ones that were sold should be somewhere. I think there are less than 10 Ferrari left.
     
    Timmmmmmmmmmy likes this.
  4. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
    10,386
    FRANCE
    How would we know? He was what you would call a "wealthy person"; not one you would call "rich", but "wealthy"; he made a lot of money in the sheepskin business. And he was always a wise investor. The size of the estate, then the amount of inheritance tax, is everybody's guess...(except the tax administration, of course...)

    Rgds
     
    Timmmmmmmmmmy likes this.
  5. dinoSP

    dinoSP Rookie

    Jul 19, 2011
    13
    #380 dinoSP, Jan 24, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2020
    List of the cars remaining on his collection, i recently made an update because i've always been fan of his cars, to me the greatest Ferrari collector in the world :

    Ferrari 166 F2 - #006C
    Ferrari 375MM Berlinetta - #0368AM
    Ferrari 375 Plus - #0396AM
    Ferrari 250 GT SWB - #2937 GT
    Ferrari 250 LM - #5841
    Ferrari 330 P - #0822
    Ferrari 330 P4 - #0860
    Ferrari 312P - #0870
    Ferrari 312 B - #001
    Ferrari 312 PB - #0884
    Ferrari 512 BBi - #21257
    Ferrari F50 - #103488
    Ferrari 550 Maranello - #108746

    He was one of the first in France to purchase an Enzo but i heard she was sold a few years ago.
    The F50 isn't road legal she was ordered with improved engine specs, no rear view mirors and slick tires. Bought only for his track... Kind of a masterpiece, pretty unique.
     
  6. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

    Jan 21, 2017
    3,149
    France
    IIRC the Enzo was sold (to an Italian buyer) back around 2006.
     
  7. dinoSP

    dinoSP Rookie

    Jul 19, 2011
    13
    Thanks!
     
  8. GHG

    GHG Formula 3

    Jan 29, 2008
    1,412
    Photos of the F50? Sounds fascinating.
     
  9. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 5, 2010
    2,104
    NZ
    Full Name:
    Timothy Russell
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/135910707/
    Per the post quoted above by Marcel Massini I believe that #0822 was sold back in 2006 via Terry Hoyle to an unknown British owner.
     
  10. dinoSP

    dinoSP Rookie

    Jul 19, 2011
    13
    Here's a very short video of her on the track:
    I Had a picture on one of my computers I've to find it and i'll post it Here as soon as possible.
     
    quailgun, Fennicus, GHG and 2 others like this.
  11. dinoSP

    dinoSP Rookie

    Jul 19, 2011
    13
    PS: the F50 was bought when he sold the GTO Evoluzione,
    The GTO #70167 who was bought via Michelotto was a monster to drive...and to maintain. Back in the day she wasn't fully completed and needed some engineering interventions, for example the wheel axles were often broken and the wheels ran away from the track...
     
    readplays likes this.
  12. GIOTTO

    GIOTTO F1 Rookie
    Consultant

    Dec 30, 2006
    2,907
    FRANCE
  13. GHG

    GHG Formula 3

    Jan 29, 2008
    1,412
    What a sound. Thanks for posting!
     
    Scuderia CC likes this.
  14. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
    Honorary

    Mar 2, 2005
    14,398
  15. GHG

    GHG Formula 3

    Jan 29, 2008
    1,412
    Anyone know what the ex-Bardinon 275P sold for last year?
     
  16. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 5, 2010
    2,104
    NZ
    Full Name:
    Timothy Russell
    Low $40 million range to the UK
     
    GHG likes this.

Share This Page