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Pista-STO- 765LT- AMG Black series

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  1. SoCal to az

    SoCal to az F1 World Champ
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    Well- it’s been about a week and I’ve got about 300 miles on the car. 3 days the car was gone for PPF.

    No complaints whatsoever. Car drives great, amazing handling, manual is a blast. But I will tell you, after driving cars like the Pista and 720 (and soon the 765)- you can definitely feel the power difference between the cars.

    I know it’s not all about straight line speed and the GT3 makes up for lack of it in many other ways but when I hit the gas on the Pista and 720, they just go! It’s neck snapping speed. GT3- not so much.

    By no means am I complaining- just pointing out the obvious that we are in an era where power has gone through the roof and it has spoiled me a bit.
     
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  2. Gh21631

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    That's was my only issue with the 991.2's I owned and also every boy racer wanted to street race. Get that thing in the twisties and the power won't matter so much.
     
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  3. junc

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    200 plus hp difference is really noticeable especially with a NA needing revs to get peak hp. I have a 991 speedster that has the same engine as the 992 GT3 that i really enjoy. When I go back and forth between that and the other cars I have to reset my perception of speed.


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  4. ScrappyB

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    It’s one of the reasons why I sold my 3RS and kept the 2RS. I think 500hp is the sweet spot for a manual transmission car (Speedster/GT3) or something smaller (GT4 RS).

    That said, I’ll be all over the 992 RS.
     
  5. Coincid

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    After owning super performers like the 765, GT2 RS, Pista, the only reason to buy a GT3 is having a manual transmission.
     
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  6. wthensler

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    Same can be said for the STO….it’s a very maneuverable car, but not overwhelming power-wise.
     
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  7. Coincid

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    Still big power difference - 500 HP compared to 630.
     
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  8. SoCal to az

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    Basically this. I have one for the manual but the dreams of owning a stable of skittles Porsches- meh- not so much.
     
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  9. soulsea

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    Speaking of skittles ...

    Changed my spec from Amethyst to Viola and wheels to black.

    Basically this exact car but with the front clip CXX to color match like the Touring:

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    FYY, if anyone is ordering one, although it is officially a CXX option, you can now get the front fascia painted to match without CXX delays if it's the only CXX thing you are requesting.
     
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  10. wthensler

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    Agreed, but compared to the 458 it’s an octave or two higher in power but still not in the same league as the F8S.

    As someone mentioned it’s plenty of car for the track. The 458’s been out a number of times, the STO has yet to see one. It will, soon enough……..
     
  11. SoCal to az

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    I think this is a brilliant car for 150 to 200 K maybe 225. But those people that are paying 350 basically $100,000 over sticker I don’t get it.
     
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  12. Lukeylikey

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    I have a 992 GT3 coming, my first new allocation after a lot of asking (why do we put ourselves through it?!) Although it won’t be as quick as the 2RS I’m thinking about moving the 2RS along. The 2RS is a brilliant car to take to the track. However, when you rock up with a 2RS at a track day, you may as well paint a target on the back! It’s also a very expensive car to take to regular track days and I suspect the 992 GT3 will give much of the fun the 2RS does, perhaps a little less conspicuously and certainly a lot more cheaply. I’m not certain yet but with other cars coming (812 Comp for example) and some other uses for the money, it’s a distinct possibility the 2RS goes. This will no doubt be a future regret but all our cars have to be used and the 2RS might not be when the GT3 arrives. Not because I think the GT3 will prove to be a better car - something I doubt highly - but because I think the GT3 will go at 9.5/10ths its pace, at half the cost and twice the sound. On track, I can put up with ‘only’ 500hp. And for when I can’t, the Speciale has 600, the Pista 700, the Competizione 800 and the SF90 1,000. As we know, a well driven GT3 (not by me!) would walk all over the Ferraris in the hands of an average pedaller so to improve my track driving the GT3 may well even be a better tool than all of them.

    Driving with a little in reserve (say 9 tenths pace) I’ve been lapping the 2RS around 2.27 at Silverstone, 1.30 at Goodwood and 1.20 at Donington - around 2-3 days at each so still some track learning to be done too. If I really went for it and forgot the potential cost consequences of a trip to the wall or gravel, at my current skill level I think I could knock 2-3 seconds off those times, depending on track length. With the 992 GT3 it’ll be interesting to see but I think I could match my 2RS Goodwood time (already did 1.31 in the 991 GT3 RS) and get very close to the Donington and Silverstone times. Mostly because the 2RS is not quite as well balanced as the 3RS and the 992 GT3’s better balance and new front suspension should probably counteract most, if not all, of the added power of the 2RS at some circuits in the hands of a decent (but no more) track amateur like me.

    As a side note, never really liked the 765 but the Spider on JWW’s video looks very nice indeed. I think the Spider would be a great car, more preferable than the coupe to me and whatever that blue is looks super good! I can suddenly easily see why people love the 765, even though I don’t really have the room or plan for one myself.
     
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  13. wthensler

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    Double wishbone, double price? Good to get your perspective, the same could be said of the STO, though in this case the $$$ is going to Lamborghini directly. My dealer charged MSRP.

    Who knows with the cofango and CF body panels. maybe their mfg. costs are higher.
     
  14. wthensler

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    Interesting perspective, having a $500k+ car on the track with others gunning for you gives one pause for thought.

    The 458 attracts enough attention, the STO is insane and I’m also still learning the car and honing my track skills. So far I’ve been on closed events. I’m gonna keep it that way for a while. Chin Racing runs some great events.

    With regards to $$$, assuming you don’t trash your car, Pagid pads and ST ceramic rotors are a good investment. I bought a spare set of rims which I run Cup 2s on. So it’s fluids, essentially.

    Heck, even an Audi R8 with a VF blower is a decent track beast.
     
  15. SoCal to az

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    The manual makes the car. Otherwise I personally would not pay a premium for pdk.
     
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  16. REALZEUS

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    Won't that be a problem on some tracks?


    For sure a better driver can be quicker with a slower car, but it also depends on the track layout. In Monza, for example, a driver can only do so much.
     
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  17. Shack

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    I think a 992-2RS, 992-3RS and 4RS would be a great combination to own :)
     
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  18. Ramih84

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    Just received my 992 Turbo S -Shark Blue. Unfortunately the weather here in NY is in the 20s as well as just getting 18” of snow! Once it comes back from the shop I’ll get some miles in! For now it’s hanging out with a few of its new stablemates -Pista and GTBS, STO incoming next month.

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  19. buddyg

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    Congrats! Love the cars in the garage!
     
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    Thank you!
     
  21. Ash Patel

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    Lovely garage!
     
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    Awesome stable!
     
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  23. Thecadster

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    Bravo! Strong selection of best in class cars. What color is your STO?
     
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  24. Ramih84

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    Thanks !
     
  25. Ramih84

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    Thank you, the STO will be Arancio Xanto(black trim color). Gloss carbon fiber as well.
     
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