Pista-STO- 765LT- AMG Black series

Wow, incredible! I was toying with the idea of a GT3 for the track, but honestly with these prices (and drama) of even getting a used one, I’ll just continue to slum it with the 458. The level of greed with some of these brands knows no bounds. I love the bundle approach, lol.

Sound aside, twin turbos have a way of bringing NA engines down to reality. I love the linear response of the STO, but it is not the blisteringly fast car I first thought once taking delivery of the F8.

 

Porsche dealers can charge whatever they like because many will pay. Once customers push back that will stop but so far people are willing to pay whatever it takes. For me, I had 2 991.2 GT3 manuals and sold them both. I just got bored. They aren't race cars and with the race seats just too uncomfortable for more regular use.

 

So if not tracking a GT3 you’d suggest which seats?


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Lesson learned for me in these cars.

 

hmm.. I have my GT3 on order with buckets and clubsport package

 

When my car arrived I drove it abut 400 miles home vs. having it shipped and for me they were perfectly comfortable. If anything I might adjust them slightly to be a bit less upright. You may want to look into this as well especially because you are over 6'.

 

Interesting opinions. I love the buckets in my 3RS, even on longer drives. Adding some P1 inserts would make that even better.

 

This. There is music and there is noise. Making noise louder produces loud noise- not great sound. Great naturally aspirated engines always sound better than turbos- always. Turbo’s produce no orchestra, no sweetness, and no nuance. If you cannot hear the difference- then I presume for you it’s not there. My previously owned 6 cylinder Boxster Spyder’s engine produced better sound than all of these loud turbo charged engines.

And these are the trade offs- I have a 296 GTS on order- I hope the performance makes up for the loss of music. As far as turbo engines go- it’s an improvement. I also have a GT4RS on order- some consider it the best sounding car ever made. I have not yet heard one.

 

Exactly and I chuckle at guy who comment and write a thesis on how the model of the car they’ve own for 3 years and 1200 miles handles.

 

I wouldn’t say they always sound better (although it is subjective anyways). The Pista sounds better than a Speciale to my ears which I know isn’t a common opinion.

 

Funny how many folks with Porsche GTx models run straight pipes on their cars at the track. Supremely loud, but not a pleasing sound IMO.

The F8 actually doesn’t sound too bad to my ears - it’s a bit of a relief compared to the 458 and STO. I can actually listen to the premium sound system and enjoy Sirius XM.

 

With the valves open the Pista sounds pretty good but too subdued IMO when closed.

 

The Pista sound is more sonorous, melodious and complex than the 458 and the Speciale which is cruder and atonal.

 

The sound of super cars when properly executed elevates the driving experience and is responsible for obviating the desire to turn on the sound system.

 

In the 458, there is no need to use the premium HiFi except perhaps when washing the car,

The STO…….forget it entirely. Road and engine noise cannot be abated with any sound system available.

The F8, superbly enjoyable listening to tunes while cruising around.

It’s the best of all worlds, really.

 

McLaren 765LT – can it beat the Ferrari 488 Pista's time? | evo

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765LT on Pirelli Trofeo R tyres.

 

Real world, I tracked my Pista one time and the brakes were done after 3 laps amd there is no way in he'll it can keep up with a 765 on a track or straight line. Also, this must be the shortest of tracks for a 1.08 time.

 

The Ferrari will really cook the rear brakes unless you run Esc Off. I manage to do it on track with the 458, I wouldn’t attempt it with the F8 or a Pista.

 

... And there was quite slippery (for Trofeo R's) and the wind was blowing

In a straight line, the P/W ratio wins. The 720s has already been faster in a straight line than Pista. So why 765 LT shouldn't be faster in a drag race?

On a track though, ... there is the second story.