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  1. VWH3RD

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    My best friends brother is becoming a Sergaent Major( I think that is right) in the Marines

    I am just wondering if someone can help me with the Marine ranks .

    Thanks
     
  2. Teenferrarifan

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  3. VWH3RD

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    Thanks Erik
    Looks pretty impressive!
     
  4. Teenferrarifan

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    Yeah that's what I thought he is def. moving his way up!
    Erik
     
  5. ylshih

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    Congratulations to him! Unfortunately it doesn't look like he's got any higher to go except Sgt Major of the Corps. How many years service does he have?
     
  6. snj5

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    Sergeant Major is not moving up, it is up. That is the highest enlisted rank, and only the top 1% of enlisted make it; something to be very very proud of.
    Unless he becomes an officer, which I would doubt he would at this point, he is at the top rank he will achieve.
    Great job.
     
  7. MarineVette

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    SgtMaj is the highest enlisted rank in the Marine Corp. Throughout the rest of his career, he will just progress in the units that he is the SgtMaj of. For example, he may start out as the SgtMaj of a infantry battalion. Later on he could become the SgtMaj of a regiment, and the highest would be the SgtMaj of the Marine Corp.

    Semper Fi
     
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  9. VWH3RD

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    Glad I was'nt the only one who didn't know.

    What is the difference between enlisted and an Officer? Is it college? Is one a desk Job ?
     
  10. IROC_DIS

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    its not always a desk job. the higher up the rank scale you go, the more time you'll probably spend behind a desk. but it really depends on what MOS you have. an infantry 2nd LT in the Marine Corps will probably not be behind a desk ever. a logistics 2nd LT will sit there for his entire shift most likely. but that doesnt mean that higher ups dont go in the field on occasion. my best friends dad is a 40-something year old major in the Army and still goes out on Ranger missions in Iraq once in awhile.

    the differences between enlisted and officer? responsiblities would be the biggest i suppose. a lance corporal is only responsible for the people in his fire team whereas a 2nd LT is responsible for a much larger group
     
  11. ShanB

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    Enlisted (E0-E4): Operational task level, usually focused on accomplishing a specific skill/job with limited authority and some responsibility

    Non-Commisioned Officer or NCO (E5 Sergeants to E9 SGM): More authority. Responsible for day-to-day functions of a unit or organization. Usually is primarily responsible for the direct care and welfare of soldiers (airmen, marines etc) assigned to his/her unit. Incidentally, most senior NCO's I know have at least a college degree and many have a Master's degree.

    Officer (2LT-General): Has more authority and responsibility. Primarily responsible for organizational issues at the macro level. Only Officers can be in command and have UCMJ authority. Responsible for overall unit function (works VERY closely with the senior NCO). Then there are the special branches (JAG, Dental, Medical etc) which are all officers with special degrees or skills but do not necessarily command units.

    Hope that helps. Kudos to the Marine SGM - that is a hard rank to attain and he must be something special.
     
  12. idloveaguinness

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    Just an observation....if you click on the pay scales (which I assume are monthly figures) you will see exactly how little (editorial) these men and women actually get paid for their service. IMO, the numbers should be much higher, especially in the higher ranks, and more in line to what the going rate is if they were in corporate America......good leaders are hard to come by and worth their weight in gold.
     
  13. smg2

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    noticed the same thing myself about the pay, less then the teachers make in most states and possibly the same in others. why oh why do we take the edjucation and wellfare of this nation for granted? little to no pay incentive will begain to haunt this nation sooner than later in these fields.
     
  14. ylshih

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    I think they do deserve more, but remember they can also retire after 20 years and start a second career while collecting a pension and retaining some military benefits (health, PX, etc).
     
  15. Erich

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    The number listed is for Base Pay.
    Military pay also includes a Variable Housing allowance. You get this unless you live on a base. The VHA is also Tax free.

    My wife is an O5 in the public health service. (Rank= Navy Captain.)

    I can tell you that her net to bank paycheck is still higher than the Base pay number for her rank and years of service (19). So the VHA is a significant part of pay.
     
  16. Evolved

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    The money is not the juice for most Military types.

    On any given day an Air Force Major may fly a mission with 6 or so Nukes in the belly of his jet.

    What did YOU do at work today?
     
  17. ylshih

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    Yeah, but that's the tip of the spear. Those further back from the point may be less motivated. My brother-in-law just retired after 20 years (AF Captain in medical, so probably O-3, he worked up from E-1) and he would have done so 10 years earlier if it hadn't been for the retirement package.
     
  18. ^@#&

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    would someone please explain the pay scale that is on that site. It seems soooo low.
     
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  20. ^@#&

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    ooh that changes everything
     
  21. boffin218

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    To add to the discussion of pay scales, did anyone see/hear the reports this summer of the number of soldiers eligible for food stamps?

    According to the Department of Defense (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jan1997/n01171997_9701173.html)
    there are about 12,000 (.8% of the 1.5 million total men and women in the military ) soldiers eligible for food stamps.
     
  22. ylshih

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    That's from this summer? The link path seems to say it's from January 1997.
     
  23. boffin218

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    That was the best DoD article I could find on the subject. The army predicted drops to 6,300 in 1999-2000 and again to 4,000 or lower by 2005, but I haven't found statistics confirming either of the last two figures. At the same time a 1999 DoD study suggested 40% of lower-ranking enlisted soldiers would experience financial difficulties.
     
  24. f1_nix

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    I understand Enlisted, NCO's and Officers, but how do Warrant Officer ranks fit in?
     
  25. ShanB

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    Warrant Officers (CW1, CW2 etc) are usually technical experts (helicopter pilots for example) that usually stay within the same technical field for most of thier career. Usually they don't hold command or have UCMJ authority. Rank-wise they are kind of in between NCOs and Commissioned Officers. Valuable members of the team.
     

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