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  1. rodolfo

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    Ricardo Rodríguez (14 February 1942, Mexico City - 1 November 1962, Magdalena Mixhuca Circuit, Mexico City [1]) was a Mexican racing driver who competed in the 1961 and 1962 Formula One seasons. His elder brother, Pedro, was also a noted racing driver who had much success in sports car racing and Formula One.

    Rodríguez was a child cycling champion who switched to motorcycles in domestic competition from the age of 14. He won several national motorcycle titles, before taking up saloon car racing in his own Fiat Topolino. In 1957 he made his international debut at Riverside, beating all comers in the under 1.5 litre class in a Porsche RS. He then won his class in a Porsche Spyder in the Nassau Tourist Trophy. He often raced for the North American Racing Team (NART) with his brother Pedro, although he would also enter cars under his father's name. He was refused an entry at Le Mans in 1956, but went back in 1959 to race an OSCA in the 750cc. class. In the 1960 24 Hours of Le Mans he partnered André Pilette to second place; at 18 years of age, the youngest ever to stand on the podium at Le Mans.

    Rodríguez was given a guest drive by Ferrari for the 1961 Italian Grand Prix, qualifying a surprise second. In the race he exchanged the lead with Phil Hill and Richie Ginther many times, until a fuel pump failure ended his race. He was the youngest ever F1 driver at that time. 1962 saw a full works drive with Ferrari, who used him spraringly considering his age and rough edges. Whenever used, Rodríguez shone, taking second at the Pau Grand Prix, fourth at the Belgian Grand Prix and sixth at the German Grand Prix in a tough year in Formula One for Ferrari. He also won the Targa Florio with Olivier Gendebien and Willy Mairesse.

    Rodríguez was considered a potential future champion already, but was left without a drive when Ferrari opted not to enter the non-Championship 1962 Mexican Grand Prix. He signed to drive Rob Walker's Lotus, but died during the first day of practice, when he inexplicably failed to brake for the fearsome Peraltada corner, and entered the banked turn far too fast, hitting the barriers at the exit. He was 20 years old and his death provoked national mourning in Mexico

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  3. ferraripete

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    from the days when drivers were heroes! he and pedro drove fearlessly and were cut of a different cloth than the cry babbies many worship today.
     
  4. jgcferrari

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    IMHO 2 of the best drivers of their era, it is a shame that their careers ended to early. RIP
     
  5. Daytonafan

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    Well put
     
  6. Tspringer

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    True.

    The flip side of course is that they didn't call it the "Cruel Sport" back in the day for nothing. Both died in racecars. Having your heroes die sucks.

    Pedro was quite the talent without question (what he did in a 917 is jaw dropping). Ricardo.... well, sorta hard to really judge as he didn't last long enough. Sure he was very quick, but he was also known to be extremely wild and he took chances that made others shake their heads. Reminds me of Stefan Bellof.

    To me, the truly great ones were those who were blistering fast in all conditions and who DID NOT crash or take crazy chances. Drivers who were simply head and shoulders above the competition and didn't have to resort to taking such chances. Fangio stands out as the best example.



    Terry
     
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    They whined back then too. One day Pedro came into the pits complaining that his car was overheating. My friend stuck a screw driver through the water temperature gauge and said:

    "Now it's not. Get out there and Drive you Pussey"
     
  9. rodolfo

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    Can you get me more info on that race?
    where?
    when?
    what drive?
    any more news is good
     
  10. Jack-the-lad

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    Looks like Spa, 1961.

    Jack
     
  11. krasnavian

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    I met a frenchman who lived in Mexico and knew Pedro and Ricardo's father. According to him, the father was a well-placed police official and the dynamics of his relationship with the sons would make for an interesting book--or movie--if half of what he recounted is true.
     
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    A comprehensive dual biography of Pedro and Ricardo was published last year, but it's taking forever for the English version to come out.

    Jack
     
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    Different sort of whining, and also proves that Pedro was no car destroyer. The current bunch of pusseys whine when their feet cushion is not in the right place when they GET OUT OF THE CAR ...

    All the fluff (and $ wasting) around motorsport nowadays sickens me ... all you need is a tool box, a tent and a fncken fast car ... and a little fuel!.
    Pete
     
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    1 out of the 10 ...Ferrari 275 NART Spider was originally owned by them.


    it seems like a totally different era; when race drives actually risked their lives for the sake of speed and competition.

    were they TOO fast or just TOO immature ?
     
  16. PSk

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    They raced back then to be the fastest ...

    This is also why racing was more fair, because they wanted to be the fastest not just to win. Thus if they cheated they knew deep down that they were not really the fastest ... now ofcourse many appear to race for the wrong reasons (ie. money, fame) and winning at all costs is the way they play. Sad, just sad :(.
    Pete
     
  17. rodolfo

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    They "Lived to race and they Raced to live". Racing was life in those days, not the overprotected life racers today like to live. And I don´t mean overprotected cars, just the lifestyle that they portray nowadays.


    Long live Ricardo...tou are surely missed CHAMACO DE ORO
     
  18. rodolfo

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    Can you get me more info on that race?
    where?
    when?
    what drive?
    any more news is good
     
  19. alberto

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    Can you post details (name, publisher, author)? I'd like to get a copy.

    Alberto
     
  20. rodolfo

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    Alberto if you are in San Diego, Ca. go to Tijuana and they should have it at Sanborn´s, thats the only place that you can find it. Or visit the web page...

    price like 60 USD, it is a big format book. "Los Hermanos Rodriguez" Author Carlos Jalife.
     
  21. Jack-the-lad

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    Amazon U.K. also has the book. Dalton is supposed to be publishing the English version, but they aren't exactly a fountain of information...the last time I checked it wasn't even possible to pre-order the book in English.

    Jack
     
  22. rodolfo

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  24. alberto

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    Gracias Rodolfo.
     
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    :)
     
  26. alberto

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    Got the book last week. Very detailed account of their lives. Very nice book, lots and lots of pictures. Very much worth having.

    Alberto
     
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    I got the book 6 months ago or so. I ordered it online from Sanbornes. I think it was $52 delivered to my door in Las Vegas, what a bargain!! Even if you don't read/understand Spanish, it's still a must have book just with the photos alone. :)
     
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