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Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by KenGoldman, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. KenGoldman

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    Anyone at the sale who can give me a report on the
    250 PF Coupe which sold a few minutes ago??

    Condition & Final price???

    Ken Goldman
     
  2. El Wayne

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  3. sperry

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    seems like lots of cars are struggling to hammer at the low estimate, but most are still being let go.
     
  4. geno berns

    geno berns F1 Rookie
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    Very good price for a restored car. Driver's Source has one available for $695K that needs a full resto...
     
  5. KenGoldman

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    Thanks. Anyone actually see the car?

    Ken Goldman
     
  6. tx246

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    What did the Ellena sell for?
     
  7. peterp

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    Beautiful car. Is that nose badge really original? It's difficult to picture the factory using a badge that large (or even accommodating a customer request for it).
     
  8. Terra

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    €360,000 hammer (~ $412,000 hammer).
     
  9. Daytonafan

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  10. El Wayne

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    Reported prices on all sold Ferrari lots, including buyer's premium:

    Lot 112
    1966 Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 Series II s/n 9319
    Sold for €246,400

    Lot 116
    1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS s/n 04714
    Sold for €341,600

    Lot 119
    1972 Ferrari 365 GTC/4 s/n 15127
    Sold for €224,000

    Lot 120
    1989 Ferrari Testarossa VIN ZFFAA17B000079401
    Sold for €168,000

    Lot 130
    1958 Ferrari 250 GT PF Coupe s/n 0953GT
    Sold for €580,000

    Lot 135
    1963 Ferrari 250 GT/L s/n 5085GT
    Sold for €1,624,000

    Lot 138
    1963 Ferrari 250 GTE Series I s/n 2889GT
    Sold for €252,000

    Lot 146
    1990 Ferrari F40 VIN ZFFGJ348000087990
    Sold for €1,176,000

    Lot 149
    1978 Ferrari 308 GTB Group B s/n 24783
    Sold for €291,200

    Lot 152
    1969 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 s/n 12801
    Sold for €705,600

    Lot 154
    1983 Ferrari 512 BBi VIN ZFFJA09B000044719
    Sold for €263,200

    Lot 167
    1970 Ferrari Dino 246 GT 'L-Series' s/n 01040
    Sold for €347,200

    Lot 168
    1957 Ferrari 250 GT Ellena s/n 0755GT (engine # 2963GT)
    Sold for €403,200
     
  11. silver1331

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    will be interesting to see if it was a end buyer who bought it or a dealer looking to flip it...my guess is the latter
     
  12. mdw3

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    I think the days of the dealer quick-flips are over, and that price is about market-correct at this point. And, that expensive car in Texas has been for sale for ages. Was a no-sale in Monterey in August, and still is listed as available. I think the price is a relic from a different phase of the market-- the "optimistic" phase.

    Michael
     
  13. barchetta

    barchetta Formula Junior

    Nov 5, 2003
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    I agree. Car sold very inexpensively!
     
  14. silver1331

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    To be clear i wasn't trying to make a comment on price, really. It just seems to me that many cars bought at auction these days seem to be bought by dealers rather than end users...personally I don't see that as a good thing but if these dealers can find a buyer at a higher price point then so be it.
     
  15. geno berns

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    Wasn't there a 400 GT sold in the mid $8's last August at Pebble that Gary restored? This car also a fresh resto for over $300k less so how is this market correct?
     
  16. mdw3

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    I'm really sorry for being dense, but I've read your comment four times, and I just have to ask-- what are you talking about? I thought the substantive discussion above was about a Ferrari 250 PF Coupe (s/n 0953GT) and a Ferrari 250 Ellena (s/n 0755GT).
     
  17. geno berns

    geno berns F1 Rookie
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    You're not being dense, I was! My bad, must of had a moment of confusion. Now back on track and yes the black PF sold for a good number...

    Geno

     

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