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  1. roytoy2003

    roytoy2003 F1 Veteran

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    I was behind this car when it had the accident in South Cali as it was entering the Freeway after a local cars and coffee event. At the time it was owned by Keith, a member here. I took the car and had it completely redone by Steve from Driven Exotics in Gilroy, California.

    It was then sold to another board member here, as a matter of fact John SHOULD know this as he bought my SE Purple from the owner in trade for his White grey market SE30 car, that as from last conversation with the new owner has jst to be correctly licensed and titled into the USA due to its Grey Market Status. I recall Joe Sackey helping with this sale as well.....

    I would have to see VIN#s to confirm, but I DO NOT think this car pictures is the one Jota for sale from Sweden. As a matter of fact, if its the same JOTA in Sweden that has been for sale privately, I do not think that car has ever had any accident and paint work done to it....I could be wrong.
     
  2. SupercarGuru

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    Agreed, it is not the car from Sweden. I do not think anyone implied that, apparently it is owned by someone from Sweden now?

    Roy, I think you are getting confused... this is not CB's car. This is the car that came to Florida and was with LB.

    Or am I confused?? Haha.
     
  3. roytoy2003

    roytoy2003 F1 Veteran

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    Thanks for the clarification
     
  4. geno berns

    geno berns F1 Rookie

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    So Lambo Gurus what's the car worth given it's accident history and the bolt on Jota kit? If a perfect 1200 mile regular SE30 is ~ $380-400k than what's this car worth accounting for miles and Carfax history and the unattainable after market unoriginal Jota kit (which I am not so sure helps or detracts from the car's value).
     
  5. Jota 5084

    Jota 5084 Formula 3

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Diablo_4_Ever

    Diablo_4_Ever Formula Junior

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    Difficult to put an estimate on this car considering its history, even irrespective of mileage or damage; it will be interesting to see if it sells at auction. The kit is actually not aftermarket but OEM, one of two kits that were left at the factory. Both were sold to the US and if I recall correctly installed somewhere in 2007/2008 at Driven Exotics; I think Emilio has the full story here. But both cars are not part of the original Jota series of the '90s, which only included Euro/base models, and are also not documented as such by the factory. Perhaps that is an important factor to consider.
     
  7. christiann

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    not all of the jota kits where installed at the factory and it was a **** install. wrong gaskets was a major problem and why the cars had **** idle. gossip says 15 cars had install at the factory. person to ask is balboni. the key was always to get access to a jota kit one way or another. I have more interest in the car just to get access to the kit then the car it self.
     
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  8. geno berns

    geno berns F1 Rookie

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    Christian you have a potty mouth using all those asterisks. But I heard that before where the factory installed Jota kits would be removed so that the car can run properly.

    Geno
     
  9. Diablo_4_Ever

    Diablo_4_Ever Formula Junior

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    064/150 will be auctioned next month during RM Sotheby's Paris sale; 275.000 - 325.000 Euros estimate

    Some comments:
    - It is the only SE that I know of in this color combination; there could be more however, although unlikely
    - For sale in 2008/2009 with 30.500kms at 135.000 Euros, price then dropped to 129.000 Euros
    - Listed for sale several times since 2015. 39.000 kms and asking price 399.000 Euros in 2015, then with 39.886kms and asking price 410.000 Euros (04/2016). Subsequently at Auctionata auction (09/2016) with 39.995kms, no bids at 220.000 Euros starting bid. Then listed for sale again at 349.000 Euros (05/2017), 375.000 USD (09/2017)

    The car is advertised by RM Sotheby's as "remarkably well preserved", "remaining in excellent condition" and "impeccably well maintained". This was not what the condition of this car was like when it was for sale in 2008/2009, according to two people that personally inspected this car and whose names I will not disclose:
    "The car had a full body repaint and not to normal Diablo standards, with a little orange peel finish"
    "The car suffered serious damage and was repaired ... Front and rear bumpers, side skirts and other components were replaced, including windshield"
    "The car was involved in an accident and it was very difficult to install the front glass and to regulate the door"

    I do not know if all of these issues are true or have been taken care of since, and personally I have never seen this car nor do I know the current owner. What I do know is that RM Sotheby's offered another SE at their Villa Erba sale in May last year (020/150) and it turned out that that particular car was not as described; see our discussion from here onwards. I hope that they have done their research properly now, as you would expect.
     
  10. kane00

    kane00 Formula Junior
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    It was my car, I did all the research with Emilio and Valentino got us the last two unused kits (documented here 1000 times). Christian and Roy are totally right. It is an old system that is very raw and was never fully flushed out because of Chrysler pulling out and the racing department left for dead. Car sold yesterday in Ft. Lauderdale. KP
     
  11. ijvpet

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    kane00 started this thread waaaay back in the day. This thread was a big influence on me buying my car.
     
  12. lince

    lince Karting

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    Thank you for the update, how much did it went for
     
  13. kane00

    kane00 Formula Junior
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    Glad it helped!

    Not sure what it went went for. A couple friends contacted me and asked about it. Not sure if they bought it. I'm sure Roy knows. For the right person, it's an amazing car.
     
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  14. elms

    elms Formula Junior

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    Have you a link to the Jota kit discussions?
     
  15. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

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    here is the Jota kit when i opened the crate

    KIT POTE...as POTENZA i think, as POWER KIT, how cool is that?



    ...over 10 years ago! :O


    F..K i am getting older :(
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  16. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

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    TRUE! many years ago
    when diablos were not so cool and even SE30 not much loved
    thanks to Kane00 :)
     
  17. christiann

    christiann Karting

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    yes I second many thanks to Kane00
     
  18. Diablo_4_Ever

    Diablo_4_Ever Formula Junior

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    I believe that 30 kits were made in total, of which 28 were installed in the '90s in Euro cars. Besides, the factory used at least 2 prototypes with M-MEC test kits. And then there are also the 3 Jota P-series cars that have significantly more engine modifications.
     
  19. kane00

    kane00 Formula Junior
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    ****! We are old!
     
  20. kane00

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    The least I could do! Cheers.
     
  21. Lemacc

    Lemacc Formula 3
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    How do you know they made at least 2x M-Mec test kits?

     
  22. Diablo_4_Ever

    Diablo_4_Ever Formula Junior

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    I don't, I said that there were 2 prototypes that had this development kit
     
  23. LamboLover

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  25. ken qv

    ken qv Formula 3

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    I seen much worse damage on a few different diablos and since insurance wasn't involved in their repairs they were fixed, sold and very few people know. Its a sad fact but IS reality. Anyway, that damage was no big deal. (in regards to purple car on previous page/pics)
     

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