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Seeking advice on buying a Speciale

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  1. jealva

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    Sep 27, 2007
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    I’m having a serious look at a Speciale with a few thousand miles that has the telemetry and track inner cams kit. I’m told the car has been on track a few times and despite having PPF, the front bumper and hood had to be repainted. Car fax shows a clean history but I know it can’t catch everything. Should I have any concerns about the repaint or the fact that there was a need for a repaint despite the PPF?

    I currently have a couple of track cars that have PPF and I put an extra layer of track day tape on for track days. I know stuff can happen but with only about 4000 miles, my suspicion is that there was a lot more track time than advertised (2 or 3 times I was told) or even an “incident”.

    The car also has CF front flaps and nolders which I assume I can check for signs of wear and tear. Also, I’d have it put on a lift and check the floor and rear diffuser for signs of wear. I think the only other thing to be wary of are the transmission and especially the brakes since they are ceramics.


    When I buy the Speciale, my intention is to drive it on road and track for as long as I have a license (I’m 51 so hopefully 40 years) so I’d appreciate any advice on this as I’m about to make an offer on this car.

    Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
     
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  3. FFan5

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    I'd price the car like it has been in a fender bender. Whatever you think that price should be. If the seller wants to price the car like nothing has happened, I'd walk away. A repainted Speciale should be below market price. Period. If the price is right, I'd buy it and enjoy! It's just paint.

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  4. jealva

    jealva Rookie

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    Thanks for the advice. The car is at a Ferrari dealer so I would think they’d have an obligation to give me full disclosure if it had been in an accident. It’s Ferrari Approved so that gives me some comfort but the repaint is a bit troubling. I’ll see if I can get the initial inspection report before they certified it F Approved.
     
  5. 2006m5

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    is the car at san fran ferrari?
     
  6. jealva

    jealva Rookie

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    Yes, any advice or thoughts on that one?
     
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  8. RayJohns

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    And just like that, the plot thickens...

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  9. jealva

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    Sorry, I don’t quite understand what you mean. Am I missing some problem with the car (is the respray a bigger deal than I realize) or is there an issue with that particular dealership?
     
  10. RayJohns

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    Well, you had stated previously that the dealer told you no track time. Are we all discussing the same car here or ?

    Ray
     
  11. jealva

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    Minimal track time. Said it had been on track 2 or 3 times but not sure where. Owner was in the Bay Area so could have been Laguna Seca, Sonoma, Thunderhill, anywhere really. It just seems like a lot to paint, front bumper and hood with the NART stripe, because of some chips that made it through the PPF. Seems like that might have been caused by a gravel trap or something like that.
     
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  13. RayJohns

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    Yeah, hard to say but that does sound like a bit much for just some light track use.

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