Should I have my belt service now or next year?

Darius- Should be fine. Plus or minus 6 months is not going to affect anything. Remember your aux belts need to be changed every 3 years, so you have to decide to do that at the 2 year or 3 year point. Either way, one aux belt change will be at 2 years instead of 3.

 

Belts alone isn’t too bad $2500 or so here in the states. So unless you’re doing other stuff things like spark plugs or water pump I’d say just do it man, your 575 is like $400k, not worth risking it

 

All at once. Bringing to shop is always pita.

 

There is no risk letting the new Kevlar belts go an extra 6 months.

 

Taz, Darius and guys, I thought at first the dealer was pulling my leg, but no, the 456 GT owner's manual does say timing belts should be changed at a "Every 36 months maximum". Now as I know the engine is essentially the same as 550 and 575, especially as far as the timing belts go, I am wondering if this would be overkill.

According to the previous service documents the belts used were part numbers: 187744

Eurospares say: Ferrari 456 GT/GTA, Ferrari 575M Maranello, Ferrari 456 M GT/M GTA, Ferrari 550 Maranello, Ferrari 575 Superamerica, Ferrari 550 Barchetta, Ferrari 612 Scaglietti

Are those "Kevlar belts" that should be good for at least 60 months, if not for 66 months???

And I would be crazy to allow them to replace them after only 35 months (and 8000kms) and all the related parts and labor?

Was the OM saying that only because in 1993-1995 they used different (weaker?) belts? And later there was a change for the parts and service?

I know the aux belts need replacing now after 3 years, but there is a significant difference in cost. And many questions I know...

Cheers!


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Pekka- The official word from Ferrari was the change interval was still 3 years on the 456s and 550s, but that is only because they did not do accelerated wear testing on those models with the new Kevlar belts, part no 187744. That is the only belt Ferrari has been selling for at least a decade (introduced in 2002). On a 456 GT if you have the later tensioner brackets introduced at AN 28614, most owners and independents are now using 5 years for the belt change interval.

 

My two pennies
All fluids, shocked 4 years for the gearbox yikes!
Do the belts and check / replace tensioners / bearings
Do the plugs inspect the wires

Inspect
Check engine mounts, trany mounts and hoses etc for leaks
Decision is yours on water pump mileage and leakage dependent, I am the school of thought while I am here
Inspect cam seals
If worried about suspension check tire wear, if it isnt broken don't fix it! Also check ball joints an bushings

 

575s are a bit different from 550s with coil on plug ignition and wires that only transmit a fire signal to the coils (12) and have no primary current flowing thought them.

Darius- Here is a basic breakdown of service intervals, excluding all the checks that are also included in the OM maintenance schedule.

1 year
Oil and filter
Brake Fluid
Environmental Filter

2 year
Coolant if G05, longer for ELC coolants with organic acid technology additives (not in OM or any Ferrari OM through the 599)
Transaxle fluid/oil
Power steering fluid
AC refrigerant (not often done unless there is a problem)

3 year
Auxiliary belts

5 year
Cambelts, most do tensioner bearings at the same time

15,000 miles
Suspension alignment

30,000 miles
Spark plugs (put in Iridium plugs if not already fitted)

 

Darius- Lot of money being wasted on cambelt changes. The interval was never less than 3 years for the 575M. Show this to them, and no, it is not just for US spec 575s. They can look it up themselves. It came out in 2002 when the new Kevlar reinforced belts were introduced.



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tazandjan,
would this schedule be valid also for my 2001 456m gta please?
thank you



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Affirmative, but you need to add in adjusting the tappet clearances, too. Most owners and independents use 5 years for cambelts on 456s with the latest tensioner brackets and all 456Ms.

 

how many miles do u drive per year?

 

Should you reconsider where to service the car with the 3 year interval comment?
Perhaps they don't know the car as well as you suspect?

 

if it were my car id wait for sure. if you had said 5k miles a year id say do it now. at a couple hundred a year you will be fine waiting a bit longer.

 

The WSM says 3 years and some (many?) dealers do not seem to keep up with service bulletins. Perhaps because most centers are not in the official Ferrari service chain and do not receive the bulletins. This is not a US only change as some service centers have suggested.

Since Darius' center is an official Ferrari service agent, the first would seem to be the case.