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TDF on BAT - 1 day left

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by enio45, Jul 14, 2022.

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  1. enio45

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  2. rob lay

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  3. enio45

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  4. Marcel Massini

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    Rebody, replica, not even matching numbers.
    And NO, it is not a TDF. Not at all.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  5. V12addict

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    I really don't get this, do people who bid on these think they are getting a TDF? What's also crazy is they say " invoices by Patrick Ottis !!!!! " so what? i have a lot of respect for Patrick and his staff but this doesn't mean a thing.
     
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  6. Texas Forever

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    Notice how far you have to read before you get to "re-creation." I'm surprised BaT hasn't been more overt.
     
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  7. TTR

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    Why "surprised" ???
    Last I checked, BaT was in used car sales (auction) business.
    Only difference is they accommodate/provide for peanut gallery commentary, kind of like most online forums, to keep people entertained(?) and preoccupied.
     
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  8. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Historically, they hedge in their descriptions for legal reasons. This car was a fakey do from the jump. You would think they would make more obvious that the car is not a Ferrari. Maybe they are changing their descriptions.

    Frankly, I find BaT a lot more entertaining that you.
     
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  9. LARRYH

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    This is a complete waste of money i see comments in there from well known people who do nothing but sell used cars even the name of the deaLers appears to be designed to be deceptive i hope a real buyer does not get stuck with this at the current price…
     
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  10. tritone

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    Yeah, maybe....... You're thinking of the old, privately owned BaT, not the current, corporate-owned entity.....:D
     
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  11. Texas Forever

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    Yeah, I forgot about that.

     
  12. V12addict

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    Exactly, complete waste of money. For this kind of money one can get a nice driver or better GTC or a Daytona that is far more enjoyable to drive and keep their values.
     
  13. LARRYH

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    I think Bat has done there job it is clear from the BAT write up that it is a fake car…however its the comments that are totally misleading i really have never seen so many user names go through so much trouble to deceive the bidders….wonder who the owner is ?
     
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  14. Marcel Massini

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    Last known owner is/was Japanese.

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  15. LARRYH

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    Was the car actually in japan and what period is that for,?
     
  16. 375+

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    The usual moronic commentary by BaT members who've never placed a bid on anything. Helluva driving video though.
     
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  17. Marcel Massini

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    Between 2018 and 2021.

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  18. atomicskiracer

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    The auction listing it literally "Tour de France–Style 1959 Ferrari 250 GT Coupe" and the first line is "This 1959 Ferrari 250 GT was manufactured in October 1959 as a Pinin Farina–bodied coupe"--- Seems extremely direct as to what this is, and what it started it's life as.
     
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  19. gcalex

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    Oh, I don't know; the "value" question is the same as any other rebody/replica on a PFC or GTE donor.

    If the rebuild really is to a TdF spec, and one is just curious to see what it is like to drive a TdF, then the car has appeal. Real TdFs go for a lot, and to me, the TdF would be a more interesting car to experience than say a Lusso...

    Of course, if the car is still at a PFC spec, then it seems less interesting, though at least the alloy panels might be a notable deviation.

    As 375+ noted, the video does give the impression that it is reasonably sorted (aside from some stumbling at lower revs).

    All that said, yeah, $700k+ does feel like a lot, though it would likely cost you more than that to replicate it (on the assumption that one really wanted something like that).
     
  20. LARRYH

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    I suspect there were no buyers on this car hope its ok to say that but been around a lot of auctions and i just do not believe a real seller would turn down real 850k for this car?
     
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    I think it's beautiful. Looks prettier than a PF coupe. But yeah $850k is nuts for a replica even with a real ferrari chassis and v12. You can buy an amazing Daytona for that price.
     
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  22. TTR

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    ???
    I just watched it and came out with two observations.
    First, can I get my couple of minutes back (didn’t bother with entire 5+ minutes) and then, while I don’t spend much time on BaT, the few (vintage) Ferrari driving videos I’ve seen there, look (and sound) like cars are being driven by some teenage girl practicing for DL test ? :confused:
     
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  23. LARRYH

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    I actually think this entire auction is less than honest from the dealer to the comments and not really sure about the bids….i guess buyer beware
     
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  24. John Vardanian

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    I think the body is done very well, but it would have been a more accurate replica had the donner been a Boano, instead of a PF coupe.

    john
     
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  25. V12addict

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    Anyone know if the engine is a true inside plug and where it came from??
     

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