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THE 2018 Monterey/Pebble Beach auction thread

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Timmmmmmmmmmy, May 29, 2018.

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  1. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    #251 BMW.SauberF1Team, Aug 25, 2018
    The next lot (2163GT) is way more attractive. It's the nose. :) Hope the seller gets a good price.
     
  2. miurasv

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    #252 miurasv, Aug 25, 2018
    RM Sotheby's: 1960 250 GT SWB Berlinetta Competizione 2163GT high bid $8,450,000.
     
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  3. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    #253 BMW.SauberF1Team, Aug 25, 2018
    Seems like a deal to me even with the premium on top of that. Est was 9.5-12.5.
     
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  4. merstheman

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    #254 merstheman, Aug 25, 2018
    Not as original as one would hope? Forgive me Marcel but I don't catch the meaning of this. OK if you don't want to elaborate further.....
     
  5. Marcel Massini

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    #255 Marcel Massini, Aug 25, 2018
    Not sold.
    Non-matching engine.
    Also unsold a year ago at RM Maranello September 2017.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  6. JAM1

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    #256 JAM1, Aug 25, 2018
    I don't believe the auction guidance/estimate includes the buyer's premiums - it reflects what the hammer is expected to be.
     
  7. Marcel Massini

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    #257 Marcel Massini, Aug 25, 2018
    Japan authorities often overstamp chassis numbers with their own JAPANESE chassis numbers (their own Japanese system).

    Marcel Massini
     
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  8. miurasv

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    #258 miurasv, Aug 25, 2018
    Yes, tipo 168 engine from LWB 250GT California Spyder Competizione 1615 as you know.
     
  9. miurasv

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    #259 miurasv, Aug 25, 2018
    RM Sotheby's: 500 Superfast II high bid $1,350,000.
     
  10. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    #260 BMW.SauberF1Team, Aug 25, 2018
    What was the high bid on it then? It's still not listed on the still-for-sale section. Did a new price make a deal after the original high bid? https://rmsothebys.com/en/home/still-for-sale/MO18
     
  11. F12KID

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    #261 F12KID, Aug 25, 2018
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    Overall looks like levels are softening.....FWIW I just picked up a 599GTO (nothing to do with this auction) for peanuts...it has original delivery km (<100km). I'm told my 458SA bought in May this year (1000km on clock) is cheapest one traded yet.....
     
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  12. amenasce

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    #262 amenasce, Aug 25, 2018
    I thought superfast were $2m.

    Love them..would take them over a Lusso.
     
  13. miurasv

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    #263 miurasv, Aug 25, 2018
    1966 Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 S2 hammered sold $250,000 plus BP.
     
  14. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    #264 BMW.SauberF1Team, Aug 25, 2018
    330GT @ $250k (no reserve). Est was $325-425. That was the last Ferrari of RM's auction.
     
  15. merstheman

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    #265 merstheman, Aug 25, 2018
    Thanks for the clarification. I can't imagine why something like that would de-value a car (maybe it didn't), but I guess these things start to matter when you're talking about that much money.
     
  16. freshmeat

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    #266 freshmeat, Aug 25, 2018
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    2017 Grigio Fero TdF, $970K
    1986 Testarossa, $120K
    1972 Dino 246 GT, $345K
    1983 Rosso 512 BBI, $200K

    at Russo & Steele...
     
  17. JAM1

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    #267 JAM1, Aug 25, 2018
    Did anyone see what the high bid was on the Gooding Japanese F40?
     
  18. freshmeat

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    #268 freshmeat, Aug 25, 2018
    It was under 1M, I believe $940K or thereabouts.
     
  19. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    #269 BMW.SauberF1Team, Aug 25, 2018
    Their twitter account never posted a sale price and it looks like it's still for sale with make an offer feature. https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1991-ferrari-f40-4/

    Edit: I see you were asking what the high bid was and not purchase price...my mistake.
     
  20. mchas

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    #270 mchas, Aug 26, 2018
    Looks like high bid of $900k
     
  21. JAM1

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    #271 JAM1, Aug 26, 2018
    Thanks. I'd like one but I don't think it was worth more than 800k with miles and being ROW car. I need them to slide a bit further!
     
  22. F12KID

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    #272 F12KID, Aug 26, 2018
    Don't worry, sliding in your (our) favour....piano piano.....
     
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  23. KenGoldman

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    #273 KenGoldman, Aug 26, 2018
    Will probably become evident soon

    Remember, as stated in the catalog, Sotheby’s had a financial interest in this lot.

    Ken Goldman
     
  24. 375+

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    #274 375+, Aug 26, 2018
    Hammer was 4,55
     
  25. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #275 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Aug 26, 2018
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    RM Saturday

    Ferrari
    Car - Low > High Estimate (US$) - Gross sale (US$) - Gross sale (EURO)/ Reported High Bid (non sales) - %+/- estimate

    1958 Ferrari 250GT Ellena 0807GT 228 $750,000 $900,000 $940,000 €808,400 4%
    1960 Ferrari 250GT Cabriolet Series II 2007GT 220 $1,300,000 $1,600,000 $1,325,000 €1,139,500 Mid
    1960 Ferrari 250GT Short Wheelbase 2163GT 251 $9,500,000 $12,500,000 Not sold $8.45 mil. N/A
    1962 Ferrari 250GTO 3413 247 $45,000,000 $60,000,000 $48,405,000 €41,628,300 Mid
    1966 Ferrari 500 Superfast 8459SF 254 $1,750,000 $2,000,000 Not sold $1.35 mil. N/A
    1966 Ferrari 330GT 2 + 2 7883 257 $325,000 $425,000 N/R $280,000 €240,800 -14%
    1968 Ferrari 206GT 00160 218 $550,000 $750,000 $577,000 €496,220 Mid
    1969 Ferrari 365GT 2+2 12521 208 $250,000 $300,000 $229,600 €197,456 -8%
    1972 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Michelotti Spider 15965 232 $2,300,000 $3,500,000 Not sold $1.7 mil. N/A
    1973 Ferrari 365GTB/4 16447 246 $575,000 $650,000 $566,000 €486,760 -2%
    1984 Ferrari 288GTO 55237 239 $2,750,000 $3,250,000 Not sold $2.55 mil. N/A
    1989 Ferrari Testarossa 79683 235 $130,000 $160,000 N/R $128,800 €110,768 -1%
    1990 Ferrari F40 87041 226 $1,400,000 $1,600,000 $1,710,000 €1,470,600 7%
    1995 Ferrari F512M 100254 209 $325,000 $375,000 $401,000 €344,860 7%
    2011 Ferrari 599GTO 175960 214 $575,000 $650,000 $555,000 €477,300 -3%
    2017 Ferrari California T 70th Anniversary ZFF77XJA4H0227523 207 $300,000 $350,000 N/R $346,000 €297,560 Mid

    Million $ sales

    1989 Porsche 911 RUF CTR Yellow Bird W09BT034XKPR06010 223 $1,000,000 $1,200,000 $1,022,500 €879,350 Mid
    1960 Ferrari 250GT Cabriolet Series II 2007GT 220 $1,300,000 $1,600,000 $1,325,000 €1,139,500 Mid
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RSH 2.7 911 360 1382 258 $1,300,000 $1,600,000 $1,380,000 €1,186,800 Mid
    1955 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing 198.040.5500800 237 $1,450,000 $1,650,000 N/R $1,435,000 €1,234,100 -1%
    1956 Bentley S1 Continental DHC BC54LAF 231 $1,200,000 $1,600,000 $1,655,000 €1,423,300 3%
    1990 Ferrari F40 87041 226 $1,400,000 $1,600,000 $1,710,000 €1,470,600 7%
    1963 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster 198.042.10.003116 242 $1,650,000 $2,000,000 N/R $1,930,000 €1,659,800 Mid
    1956 Maserati A6G/2000 Zagato Coupe 2124 234 $4,250,000 $5,250,000 $4,515,000 €3,882,900 Mid
    1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR WDB2973971Y000020 241 $4,250,000 $5,250,000 $4,515,000 €3,882,900 Mid
    1957 Porsche 550A 550-0116 230 $4,600,000 $5,000,000 $4,900,000 €4,214,000 Mid
    1962 Ferrari 250GTO 3413 247 $45,000,000 $60,000,000 $48,405,000 €41,628,300 Mid

    Total sales (Sunday) $90.3 mil.

    Car I would most like to have in my garage, either the Maserati A6G/2000 or the GTO while the 5000GT was great buying. The Mercedes CLK-GTR seems crazy expensive for a car that can't really be driven and can't be tracked either, that would not be parked in my garage.

    *All of these prices are tentative, confirmed prices will be available from RM within the next week.
    Full coverage will be available at www.autoauctionsmonthly.com in approx. 10 days.
     
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