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Discussion in 'Maserati' started by wbaeumer, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. am117au

    am117au Karting

    Apr 22, 2014
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    Yes all figured out today.
    For some reason i have an extra outlet on the bottom of the tank which i have now terminated..It had me confused but with some research and talking to a couple of my Maserati/ Citroen contacts all working fine. However i we spent hours trying to get the hydraulic system operational. The regulator wasn't cutting in and out. and the headlight pistons would raise but not retract.. It turned out we had connected the 2 high pressure flexible pipes into the light switch in reverse It's so pleasing as i replaced all the steel hydraulic lines and not a single leak has developed..Now the pressure is on to have the car completed by the 28th October to display it at our annual concorso.
    Greg
     
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  2. am117au

    am117au Karting

    Apr 22, 2014
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    My Bora restorations almost complete, I will post photos on completion.
    I want to replace the original seat belts with the retractable type but i am having trouble find a retractable belt that can be bolted to the firewall above the seat headrests.I envisage i need a belt that can accomodate the angle of the firewall and still be able to pull the belt out with out it locking..
    Has anyone change their belts with a retractable belt and if so what brand and model works?
    Regards
    Greg
     
  3. staatsof

    staatsof Five Time F1 World Champ
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    The later Boras came with a retractable belt. The entire mechanism resides on the shoulder anchor point which obviously is anchored to something besides that flimsy fiberglass firewall. Look through some photos of the later American spec cars like Ivan's and mine. There are lot's of pictures of his on the internet. It's an ugly solution that didn't work very well which is why I switched to a 3 point racing harness, obviously not at all suitable for racing WO the 4th or a 4th & 5th point fastened to the floor but OK for street driving. Who's going to want to cut up those seats for that? I put in a cross bar to secure the belts and hold an extinguisher as well. I took my car to the Silver State open road race in Nevada during the 1990's a couple of times.

    That's not a solution for you though.

    I bet all Bora owners would like to see you solve this.

    Theoretically ... there might be enough room in those side members behind the rocker panels and thus be hidden under the floor? But that would require quite a bit of fabrication and maintenance/reliability? OMG!

    Clearly Ing. Alfieri didn't give a crap about this ...
     
  4. emsiegel13

    emsiegel13 Formula Junior

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    I don't know about other Bora, but on mine which is one of the last built, #1000, the bolt that holds the seat belt retractor is quite substantial and screws into a metal mounting point that isn't part of the fiberglass bulkhead. I also found out that many years ago, Campana in Italy, still had some of the old belt assemblies in stock so you might inquire with them if there are any left. I bought a left hand and right hand assembly for myself as my original ones were all screwed up. I have also done what Staatsof has done and had a cross bar made that uses the two upper mounting points to which we made provisions for a racing shoulder and lap belt arrangement, skipping the crotch belts as I also don't want to cut up the seats. That is perfectly adequate for anything short of out and out racing but more of a pain in the neck for passengers as once you get the driver seat belt setup done to your needs you don't have to fiddle with it again and putting it on is only slightly longer than a regular three point retractor arrangement.
     
  5. staatsof

    staatsof Five Time F1 World Champ
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    I didn't mean to imply that the shoulder anchor point was flimsy, just the reverse. But it does look like a quite unsubstantial mounting spot because of the nature of the fiberglass bulk head. A big spool with a cheap as **** plastic cover up high on the firewall is not my idea of an elegant solution.

    But perhaps a nicely formed aluminum cover covered in thin matching black Naugahyde or leather could improve that a bit? Mine came cracked at the edges.
     
  6. emsiegel13

    emsiegel13 Formula Junior

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    The bulkhead fiberglass piece ends below the rearview window and the anchor bolt is imbedded in a structural member so it is more than adequate for what it does. As for the cover over the take up reel, it is a cheap as**** plastic cover but Maserati was still being held to tight financial standards by Citroen and Maserati used what they could whenever they could. It did the job despite being somewhat inelegant. Maserati, until recently, did as much as they could off the shelf because that was all they could afford. Still, it was a better car than its contemporaries, Ferrari and Lamborghini who offered mid engine competition.
     
  7. am117au

    am117au Karting

    Apr 22, 2014
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    Thanks for the input..
    I suppose i should have given more thought to this earlier in the restoration as i could have easily done some modification to the inside structure of the rocker. I will follow up Campana and check if they hold any stock. I can always fabricate a cover and get it upholstered if the original cover is so crappy.
     
  8. staatsof

    staatsof Five Time F1 World Champ
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    I have a similar ugly situation in my Espada. The reel would sit on the floor blocking smooth access to the rear passenger area. Espada's have a complex body structure that doesn't allow for modification in that area. Early cars actually routed AC flow through the rocker panels :rolleyes: AC doesn't really work on stock Espadas anyway ...
     
  9. am117au

    am117au Karting

    Apr 22, 2014
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    As i had to replace part of 1 side of the rocker we fabricated a mock up of the rocker as a reference. I could have easily modified for the retractable belt. Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  10. thecarnut

    thecarnut Formula 3

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    I just took a look at my car and on both sides of the plastic cover has held well with no cracks. Not bad for 40 years. I don't think it is that bad of a solution.

    Ivan
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