the F40's of Pebble 2022

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For $3.965 mil you'd think the engine bay would look a bit better, no?

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Proving yet again that the Tipo USA F40 is significantly more valuable than the Eu/ROW F40 which is not surprising considering they are 6 times as rare.

 

It would be interesting to see a similar mileage and provenance non cat car that scored 100 points at Cavallino come to auction in Monterey for comparison. I believe 300 made of the non cat cars?

 

Congrats David.

 

What is it you think they should look like? Barbie Dolls that never really existed?

 

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Brian, the Mecum guys quoted you in their listing. But it was the Gooding car that you gave a 100-point score, correct?

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hmmm, I'm not going near that one. Different strokes I guess.
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Mecum #87031 - $2.1 hammer (+ premium)
15,542 Miles, FCA Platinum Award Winner
https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0822-520595/1990-ferrari-f40/

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Miles still matter, a lot!!!!

 

No, they made up a quote in their listing.

 

Always will. But there was more to it than that.

 

Yes but you guys obviously have zero concept of what a 100 point score means.

 

$2.31 total
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I just ran the carfax on that one and it is listed as a total loss vehicle back when the car was new - in 1990... Does anyone know the story?

 

No but I bet it is a good one. At the very beginning several met with unfortunate incidences. One at the next dealer over had one of those and we heard about it before all the pieces landed.

 

Dam a refurb worth 2.3m

 

#87031 >>> this is all I could find. Joe Sackey could shed some light. pics? 32 years ago
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/138631211/

May 2009 - "Wrecked on delivery by salesman back in 1990, fixed by Phil Conte, last service 1998, sitting in display/museum environment ever since."

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Thats a story very familiar to me. Could be same car.

 

I wonder how many F40s actually wear the original clams and doors at this point.

 

It should look "fluffed" and at the same time natural; not dirty and corrosive appearing.

The yellow F50 that Karim shared comes to mind as a "Dolly Bird"...

 

Most cars at this level (and far below) have been detailed for max eye appeal. The owner of that car apparently wanted to save a thousand schrute bucks.
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Many more than that, of the @ 1,100 Eu/ROW cars I think the majority of the cars that come to the market are described as non-cat F40s, I'd suggest there are @ 700 which makes sense given that the jurisdictions they were sold to allowed this, that still leaves 400 cat cars.

The production F40 that stands apart is the rare Lexan sliding-windows variant, at last count with Marcel's help, we identified just @ 89 cars.

I brought to this to the attention of someone who took the time to call me, needless to say he didn't buy this car, that said, I've advised others about other F40s with clear provenance or status issues who still went ahead and purchased the car.

Nothing to add, Keith Verges' post is underscored by Carfax.

Today, many sellers don't care about these cars per se, their interest is mostly in the upside potential, so attention to detail doesn't motivate them much and they realize that some buyers don't care about attention to detail either, ergo the fact that many of them come to auction looking quite scruffy.

As I trade these cars regularly, the overall impression I get in the current market for whatever reason is one of a rush to purchase these cars, any example, at whatever price possible, time will tell if many of these purchases were astute.

 

What should a good driver quality car bring today? A few tasteful mods, AP brakes, 18 inch wheels, larger inter coolers, misting system, spare wing, Us and Euro seats, spare turbos, inter coolers, instrument pod, original brakes, wheels, three sets of books, tools, record, 23k lady driven miles.


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