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The official MP4-12C Thread

Discussion in 'British' started by Superquant, Feb 22, 2011.

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  1. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    LOL, I know, eh? They should call the black ones the MP4-Axe Murderer.
     
  2. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    Yes, our dealer has ordered 2 cars. McLaren Orange for the demonstrator and Carbon Black for the showroom.
     
  3. Falb

    Falb Karting

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    Anyone have an early build slot on the west coast they want to give up?
     
  4. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    ^^ Now it's getting interesting.
     
  5. Rcktrod

    Rcktrod F1 Rookie

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    Rumored he gets his orange 12C in August.
     
  6. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    who, Leno?
     
  7. Rcktrod

    Rcktrod F1 Rookie

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    Oh well. Glad I could give you a chuckle.
     
  8. Rcktrod

    Rcktrod F1 Rookie

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    Yes. That's the rumor.
     
  9. Falb

    Falb Karting

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    The carbon rotors are larger right and supposed to be track oriented. They seem to have a special cooling duct around the rotor at caliper exit. So....if you want to track it will 18" wheels fit under those rotors? I certain don't think that this is a race car, because it is not, it is a street car that is highly capable for some track duty. However, it would be great to throw some 18" slicks on it.

    It would be spectacular if they eventually made a Porsche Cup style race car for private use.
     
  10. Falb

    Falb Karting

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    How are the intercoolers configured? After seeing all the pix, animation, and shell I can't see any intercoolers at all. I assume there are two mounted behind the radiators on each side, but that doesn't seem very efficient to me.
     
  11. andy c

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    the intercoolers are mounted infront of the front wheels,because they are lighter and have less fluid in them than the radiators,so it was optimum to get the heaviest parts within the wheelbase
     
  12. andy c

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    2 new videos at autocar uk ,worth watching first is the full road trip back from portugal,the other driving against/with an F1 GTR at Dunsfold
     
  13. Falb

    Falb Karting

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    Are you saying that it has air to water intercoolers? Those systems are typically heavier and prone to heat soak. To be clear I am asking about post turbo intake air cooling.
     
  14. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    You're the man! Thanks for the tip.
     
  15. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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  16. krzys@earthlink.net

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  17. andy c

    andy c Formula Junior

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    as far as i am aware they are air to water intercoolers,as these do not carry alot of heat,part of the reason why the radiators are at the back ,as you would have to feed hot water past the carbon monocell,which is not a good solution
     
  18. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    I'm tempted to think that there is favouritism at play, here. However, both he and Harris have now claimed the 12C is the best sports car they have ever driven. Collectively, *ever* is a sh!tload of cars and a lot of backlash to account for if they are being biased. If I were in their position, I would probably err on the side of being conservative, so as not to show too much national pride. Nonetheless, let's see if zee Germans are so emphatic. ;)

    Love how the 12C appears to out-brake the F1 GTR, too. Damn impressive.
     
  19. krzys@earthlink.net

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    #569 [email protected], Mar 16, 2011
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    So, I got a call from Phillip from Miller with details on the CCB brake replacement, and I am stunned how cheap they are. 1,600 pounds for one front rotor and 1,300-ish for a rear axle rotor. The best, though, are the pads: 170 for front axle (not one pad, axle) and again 140-ish for rear axle.

    This is ridiculously cheap. We have been robbed by Ferrari all those years.

    One more thing, their new service facility will be just 2 miles away from my house;)
     
  20. fire_n_ice

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    #570 fire_n_ice, Mar 16, 2011
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    +1 for the customer service column, then? C'mon fasthound, you gotta like that! ;)

    p.s. nobody is getting ripped by Ferrari. Ferrari CCB rotors are infused with passion and therefore cost more.
     
  21. krzys@earthlink.net

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    #571 [email protected], Mar 16, 2011
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    Yep.

    LOL, passion for high margins.
     
  22. fire_n_ice

    fire_n_ice Formula 3

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    Okay, I take it back, that was uncalled for! But.... it does pose the question will Ferrari's option prices stay sky high? Or will McLaren be forced to eke out more profit through raising option prices in the future? Dunno, but I like the current situation even more.
     
  23. krzys@earthlink.net

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    Precisely. Ferrari will be forced to respond. Brakes and tires are the major cost of tracking those cars. All of a sudden one of the major items on my running costs tab has dramatically dropped. I am going from 2k in brake costs every other track day, to less than $500. Probably the brake steer will eat the rear pads faster, but at those costs, who cares?
     
  24. TheMayor

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    Vegas baby
    And Porsche too?
     
  25. fire_n_ice

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    It would seem, no?
     

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