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The official replica/re-creation thread

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by WILLIAM H, Mar 18, 2004.

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  1. ronc52

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    #1951 ronc52, Aug 12, 2021
    I was told by Dave Gooding that they aren't allowed to sell recreations or re-bodies at Monterey even if they have Ferrari vin #s, But he said he could at Amelia. Donnie Gould with RM said he couldn't sell them at either venue, And the same from Bonhams
     
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    #1952 ronc52, Aug 24, 2021
    Looks like they got 400K for #8109 From Drivers Source Re-body 61 TR on BAT
     
  3. Smiles

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    #1953 Smiles, Aug 24, 2021
    I think that’s a surprisingly high number.

    Matt
     
  4. amenasce

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    #1954 amenasce, Apr 7, 2022
  5. Marcel Massini

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    #1955 Marcel Massini, Apr 7, 2022
    The LHD replica of Edgar Schermerhorn. Built by Roelofs. No relation to DK.
    Has a GTE engine out of #4007 GT.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #1956 amenasce, Apr 7, 2022

    Don't hate me Marcel, but I love it!

    The replica sold by DK was also beautiful, wonder where it is now.
     
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  7. Marcel Massini

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    #1957 Marcel Massini, Apr 7, 2022
    NO replica is beautiful. Never. How can FAKES be beautiful?

    Marcel Massini
     
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  8. amenasce

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    #1958 amenasce, Apr 7, 2022

    In a vaccum. If we forget that it's not genuine and is using a butchered ferrari part or chassis - but just looking at it. I would not mind owning that 250LM repro.
     
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    #1959 amenasce, Apr 8, 2022
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    #1960 JAM1, Apr 8, 2022
    I struggle with that position. Aesthetically I think a fake/replica can be beautiful. Take the Glikenhaus fake 0846 for example… or some of the better done SWBs. I like the way those cars look as they replicate a design and a car that is beautiful. But, at the same time I also see the theft of design and the loss of an original car (presuming it wasn’t so badly damaged it couldn’t have been reasonably rebuilt) as bad for the brand and hobby. That’s made worse when those replica car’s owners intentionally lie or try to fool people.
     
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    #1961 fiatosca, Apr 10, 2022
    Someone should start a thread about 0846.
     
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    #1962 tifosi12, Apr 10, 2022
    ROFLMAO
     
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    #1963 TTR, Apr 10, 2022
    LOL !!! Now that, right there, is funny !
    I can just about hear severe diaper rashes developing and tightly wound, red faced heads popping.
     
  14. Smiles

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    #1964 Smiles, Apr 10, 2022
    My thoughts:

    One can now make wild and wonderful replicas without harming original cars.

    That’s what I did with my Pur Sang Bugatti built in Argentina.

    It’s what I plan to do with a GTO Engineering SWB California. No need for any original parts at all.

    These cars are tributes to wonderful originals that I couldn’t otherwise afford.

    Matt
     
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    #1965 bertdeboer340, Apr 13, 2022
    I think I know that photo...
     
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  16. Sempre_gilles

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    #1966 Sempre_gilles, Apr 13, 2022
    Marcel, at the 79° Members Meeting GRRC at Goodwood last weekend there was a 250 LM (official entrant: Olav Glasius) for the Graham Hill Trophy driven by van der Lof and Buurman.

    Is this the same car built by Roelofs?
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    #1967 Marcel Massini, Apr 13, 2022
    Pic?
    Plates?
    Which S/N is it using?

    Marcel Massini
     
  18. Sempre_gilles

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    #1968 Sempre_gilles, Apr 13, 2022
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    Sorry Marcel, I have no pics or any info on the S/N.

    I do know however that there was a 250 LM entered with start number 21 as stated in post #1966 .

    I also remember (but can't recollect exactly where :( ) to have read an event report on the 79° Members Meeting by Roelofs Engineering where they commented that next to their 250 GTO 64 replica, also a familiar 250 LM was present.

    The pic in post #1959 shows a 250 LM with start number 21 parked next to the Roelofs 250 GTO 64 replica with start number 111 - which is the start number at the 79° Members Meeting.

    All this led me to to assume that the 250 LM at Goodwood last weekend is the Roelofs built replica - but I might be completely wrong. Other pictures might show if the car in post #1959 is LHD or RHD.
     
  19. Marcel Massini

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    #1969 Marcel Massini, Apr 13, 2022
    "250 LM" in pic 1959 is clearly RHD. Look closer.

    Marcel Massini
     
  20. Sempre_gilles

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    #1970 Sempre_gilles, Apr 13, 2022
    That clearly refutes my theory and rules out the Roelofs replica.

    But which 250 LM is it then? The Goodwood car was entered by Olav Glasius and driven by van der Lof and Buurman.

    The only cars I am aware of as entered by Glasius and driven by van der Lof / Buurman are 3911 GT (250 GT SWB) and 0566 (340 F1).
     
  21. Marcel Massini

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    #1971 Marcel Massini, Apr 13, 2022
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    An LM replica owned by Van der Lof.
    No idea what kind of "number" it uses.

    Marcel Massini


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  22. Marcel Massini

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    #1972 Marcel Massini, Apr 13, 2022
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  23. Sempre_gilles

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    #1973 Sempre_gilles, Apr 13, 2022
    AFAIK:

    The van der Lof car is a replica of 6045 LM build by Roelofs Engineering (also in 1997?). Classic Dutch plates AR-51-59

    The Schermerhorn car is a replica of 6167 LM. Classic Dutch Plates AH-51-59.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    #1974 Sempre_gilles, Apr 13, 2022
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    #1975 Sempre_gilles, Apr 14, 2022
    I do not know the origin of the chassis of the replicas of the Dutch 6045 LM and 6167 LM. Roelofs Engineering should know.

    The 6167 LM replica is LHD which might suggest a 250 GTE 2+2 donor.
     
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