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The official replica/re-creation thread

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by WILLIAM H, Mar 18, 2004.

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  1. Simon

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    Very nice James.
    Ditto Dave's request for the old ebay pictures if you've got them.
    It would be nice to see the difference your hard work has made.
    Any plans for a different engine or are you going to stay with the turbo (Cosworth?) fitted?
    Cheers
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  2. jrs

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    #202 jrs, May 2, 2005
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    Here's a couple. The Cossie will be staying , maybe the next guy will take it further .....
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  3. P4Replica

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  4. P4Replica

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    #204 P4Replica, May 2, 2005
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    Simon - I've got them, though they're not that different to the ones that I posted. In fact, I think the two of the grotty engine compartment were ex-eBay. If not they were emailed me (later) by the seller.
    Found this one a couple of months ago, though. James has seen it. Neat, huh ? Original eBay photo below it.
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  5. Napolis

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    Hey
    I think I met him there as well when I was there with J6. Very nice guy.

    That puppy cleaned up well! I agree that you should reroute air intake to get cooler air. How does she run?

    Cheers
     
  6. P4Replica

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    #206 P4Replica, May 2, 2005
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    James.
    Maybe you could get away without re-routing, by fitting some thermal insulation and shielding, as Graeme Kersley has done, on his P4 rep's Cossie Turbo installation. Note Graeme's intercooler is on the opposite side to yours.
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  7. Napolis

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    I second the thermal insulation but still think you should route air flow from rt door scoop. You could build a fitted air box with an internal filter that would mate up to the inlet.
    Moving whatever's there would be IMO way worth it.
    Good Job!
    Cheers
     
  8. tifosi12

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    Beautiful job, congratulations!
     
  9. Smiles

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    Beautiful, ideed.

    What engine is that? What transmission?
     
  10. FFOUR

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    #210 FFOUR, Sep 23, 2005
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    Hi guys,

    Being a young guy means I have grown up with the more modern Ferrari's but I am slowly getting into the history of the older cars. :)

    Regarding 250GTO's, what are the best indicators to picking a replica from the real thing?

    I have these two examples taken by a friend in Switzerland, but I'm not sure if they are real or not. I am only aware of one GTO in Switzerland (S/N 3589), though these two could be from elsewhere in Europe I suppose.

    I am aware there are only 3 original '64 GTO's, so is the red one pictured one of them, a replica or a rebodied '62/'63?

    Thanks for the help. :)
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  11. Marcel Massini

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    The silver one is a genuine, authentic example, S/N 4153 GT, owned by a German collector and photographed not in Switzerland but at the Nürburgring in Germany during the Uwe Meissner Modena Motorsport Track Days July 2005.
    The red one (Series II) is a complete fake, a replica, done in Holland, photographed at the Ferrari Dream Days in Switzerland.
    Marcel Massini
     
  12. Anteriore

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    The silver car is 4153GT, a real one. I saw it the last time during the Modena Motorsport track days at the N´ring. The red one is a reproduction of the body of 5571GT (one of the original 3 ´64 GTOs). The car in your pictures has been discussed in another thread recently, but I can´t find it. I believe the car is in Holland at the moment.

    About the differences between a real GTO and a fake: my best advice is just to look again and again and again at the original ones :)) There are some nice looking repros out there (and many bad ones...). In all cases of repros the overall dimensions are a bit off, driving lights and grille arrangement differ, etc.
     
  13. vroomgt

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    if you see one in perth its a replica.
     
  14. Martin D

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    The red one is a replica. There was talked a lot about it somewhere but I can't remember were.
    The silver one is a real GTO. s/n is 4153GT and it belongs to the German Christian Glaessel. I think the pics were taken at the Modena Motorsport Track days this year.

    Martin
     
  15. FFOUR

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    How can you tell the '64 is a fake?

    LOL.....I doubt I'll even see a replica here. :(


    Not owned by Nicholas Springer anymore?
     
  16. Simon

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  17. Marcel Massini

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    Since 2002 owned by Glaesel.
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  18. 365boy

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    Who owns the three original 64 bodied cars..?

    I know Pierre Bardinon has (or had) one in France, but the other two...?

    Thanks, John
     
  19. ferrarifixer

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    I had the pleasure of helping to build and maintain the ex Springer car while at DK, in 1998 to 2000, it was rebuilt and then did the Historic race series etc.

    The ONLY way to tell a real one is to carbon date the steel it's chassis section that bears the chassis number is made from.
     
  20. ELIM

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    That's quite amazing. Love those 250GTOs.
     
  21. FFOUR

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    Thanks.

    I could be wrong, but here it goes:

    5571 - Bruce McCaw (USA)
    5573 - Pierre Bardinon (France)
    5575 - Carlos Hank Sr. (USA)

    Do you know if any GTO's were ever owned by an Australian?
     
  22. tx246

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    if i am not mistaken, carlos hank died several years ago and the car is still in the family.
     
  23. ferrarifixer

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    No, don't know sorry. I've only been in Oz since 2000. None that I know of though..... yet.
     
  24. RMV

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    David McKay had a 250LM, but I don't know of any 250GTOs ever being owbed by an Australian. Two were brought to Australia a year or two ago and completed in historic racing at Phillip Island. I think Sir Paul Vestey brought his GTO a number of years ago for Classic Adelaide, although I'm not 100% sure about this. I know he usually brings a 250GT California.
     
  25. 360C

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    No 250 GTO's have been owned by an Australian (to date).
     

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