Are you going to drive at all on the street before Monterey or basically let the car sit tight until then?
Max You must really learn to differentiate between fact and opinion. That David warranted and attested to me and other witnesses that the body I bought from him was original new stock panel beaten by "The Old Man Alergretti." (as opposed to Alergretti's son) is fact. That you in an email to Paul Skett seem to be confessing to stealing my property and swapping it with something else is also fact. It is also fact that the remedies I outlined in my response are in the process of coming to bear. "That's pretty funny. Lets see, in an email Max admits committing a crime. David admits committing a crime; and as my chassis was made in the same batch as 0900 and 0900a it's exactly the same as theirs. (Not) As Sharon Stone once remarked: "Anyone who has seven bucks knows I don't wear underwear." Anyone who has eyes as Macca has pointed out knows that neither my engine or gearbox are F1 and my chassis contains substantial parts of the remains of 0846. I will be sure to show the various authors who are writing all of this up Max's email. I'm sure they'll want to include it in their articles. When the articles come out I'll make sure that they're brought to the attention of the proper UK authorities as Max's email, even if it's not true may be admission of the commission of a serious crime. The other thing that I find very amusing, is, as there's no question as to what David Piper attested to in writing, it's almost as if Max, as a result of his email, wants me to wind up owning 0900's engine and gearbox as well in addition to collecting substantial sums of money from himself. Cool." Your statement that:"You can be assured thats one aspect that is not up for debate" (The opinion that David had outsmarted himself) is simply your opinion and clearly is not correct, as not only is this very much being debated, but upon seeing the forensic examination I've done, many have come to believe that David did indeed miss a thing or two.
I honestly can't believe this is still going.....Jim's got a way cool car (0846 or not), why don't you give him a couple years to finish the car and the research? All I see is that he said he "believes" it contains the remains of 0846....if you don't, well OK. I would be very very surprised if after all these years anything conclusive turns up, so believe what you want.
Thanks, Art. In fact, Dave ('dm_n_stuff') had also already PM'd me, yesterday, to put me straight on this matter. Coming to think of it, I've also seen '330 P4' (on a Texas plate) in a photo of one of Bob Norwood's P4 replicas. Must dig it out. Thanks again - to both of you. Yes - Obviously - (one of many) - things are a 'little' stricter over here in England, regarding vehicle registrations !
Paul, Think of the US more along the lines of the EU regarding registrations, emissions, speed imits and other legal issues rather than the just the UK. Maybe the UK is stricter on registrations but, if I remember correctly, you can get away with a lot more regarding speed in the UK than in the US (except Montana which has no speed limit). Also they let you drive on the 'wrong' side of the road! Both definite perks in my book. Regards, Art S.
Hang on a minute, Art .... NOBODY gets away (in my book) with a cheap shot like that. Take the subject of this thread: Jim's P4. O.K. - so there are 'discussions' going on, with regard to it's provenance and correctness. But one thing nobody has complained about is what side the steering wheel is on. It's an Italian racing car, right ? The Italians, like you guys - drive (often very fast) on the 'wrong' side of the road. But where is the steering wheel in Jim's car ? Check out the photos - On the RIGHT* ! Repeat after me: Right IS Right .... Right IS Right .... *P.S. I do actually know the real reason for this - Just a 'joke' O.K.?
(eyes storm clouds gathering...) I think Dwight Yoakum has Sharon Stone's underwear...I'll ask him. That was just MY opinion Max, about David Piper..in reference to the "three for one" frame deal, violating the authorization he had with..uh...Mr. Enzo Ferrari, IIRC. (thunder and lightning) Later.....my Dad used to say, "Careful..you can't unring a bell, you know...."
Paul. Here at FChat, "right", as in right wing, is always "right". You don't need to encourage that mantra, I hear it all day long. Now, back to the battle... is it, or isn't it 0846?
I just checked the vanity plate website for the State of Washington and a "330 P4" plate is also available here. I sure would like to see a P4 on the road in Seattle!!!
Dear Abby, I'm confused about something. So from the above statement, James seems to be saying that from Max's e-mail, the body that Jim was SUPPOSE to get with the deal from Piper was NOT the body that he actually received? If this is true, how come the "forensic examination" is capable of determining that part of the chassis remains are from 0846, but that same type of "forensic examination" can't tell that an entire aluminum body is NOT the one that was originally bargained for in the package deal??????? Sincerely, confused Horsefly.
Racecar 101: Chassis/frame is one part, or sum of parts... Body is other part, or sum of parts.... combine contents with engine, tranny, tires.....shake vigorously...VOILA!!!!
The days of no speed limit in Montana are over. But it was sure nice while it lasted. I know a guy who got out of a rekless endangerment fine for doing 150 because he proved to the judge that the car, teamed with his driving expertise was capable of sustained high speed. And after all it was a 4 lane highway!! But the good news is, there is no open container law in Montana. Thats right, you can drive here while enjoying your favorite libation.
Horsefly I'm not at liberty to comment on this, but try thinking about it a bit. Frame is used ... body is supposedly new old stock. Again try thinking about it for a minute or two. Pete
Used racecars are never 100% original. They blow up, they crash, you name it. There is an older bevel drive Ducati, that someone is claiming is my old bike that won the BOTT class in 84. New parts: engine cases, forks, wheels, pistons. You tell me, is it real? I've got the old parts, could I assemble a bike, and claim it was that one? Art
Can someone explain the comments in this thread, where damage to the door is compared to damage on the original car? If the original configuration was a spyder and the new body is a coupe (NOS never-installed replacement, as I recall), then that door fits in where, precisely? Surely the spyder and coupe doors are different?
Tillman. I assume you have read post #12 in the 'P3/4 links to OLD FerrariChat site' thread, from a week or so ago ? See: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=67321083#post67321083 which includes not only your link, but another earlier reference to the source of the car's doors in the 'More P4' thread of February, 2003 ....
Paul, I has serious about enjoying driving in the UK! For my first experience, I rented a car in downtown London (talk about trial by fire!). Northampton Gate I believe, don't remember for sure. Staying on the correct side of the road wasn't a problem but the right side of the car was narrow and the left side was wide. I also tended to drive slow in the fast lane and fast in the slow lane on the M's. I'm still waiting for the answer to you riddle. What is the real reason? Regards, Art S.
Mark, I don't speak from experience but I was with you until I read what Glassman wrote. However, before the federal 55mph law was repealed, I think speeding was a $5 "excessive fuel consumption" ticket in Montana. I read somewhere Hunter S. Thompson holds the record for the fastest speeding ticket - something over 200mph. Can anyone confirm? Montana might be a good place for Jim to take a vacation with his P4. Regards, Art S.
