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Discussion in 'Detailing & Showroom' started by Omerta, Jan 12, 2004.

  1. Omerta

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    New on the board here, I think this would be the right area on the board for this.

    I've tested out a few products for long lasting tire shine. I wasn't happy with Turtle Wax products. The shine wouldn't last. I finally picked up some real cheap stuff, called 'Black Magic'. It seemed to work great. The shine lasted for about a week with continuous everyday driving.

    Any of you have recomendations for a good tire shine product?

    Much Appreciated,
    Omerta.
     
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  3. Ricambi America

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    Personally, I'm not into super shiny tires... but if you are, the LONGEST lasting stuff is Meguires Endurance.

    It blows away the competition, and just seems to last forever. It smells like grape juice, but I wouldn't try tasting it (think Guyana, if you're old enough). When I use this stuff, I usually apply, let it sit for about 20 minutes, then lightly buff off the excess. Also, before using any tire dressing, make sure your tires are actually clean. Use a stiff brush or something to clean 'em up.

    http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=G-74
     
  4. BigTex

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    Stoner makes a spray that's pretty good.
     
  5. Omerta

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    Thanks guys, ill check those out.
     
  6. Omerta

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    I just went out and picked this stuff Up. The applicator is kind of nice to have. It smells very good! I remembered what you said and thats the first thing I did when I opened it, however, I also did not want to taste it. It looked good when I put it on. They claim the shine will last 3-4 weeks. so, well see how she goes.

    Thanks.
     
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  8. colamclean

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    I have not tried the Meguires product recommended by Daniel at Ricambi, but I tried Chemical Guys Tire and Trim Gel today and am happy with the results - easy to apply, nice dark appearance without being too shiny. Just thought I would mention it if anyone is looking to try a new tire black option.
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  9. 76Steel

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    I like stuff from Chemical Guys as well. Poorboy's World makes a nice dressing for tires called Bold N Bright. Smells great and will not sling. As per Daniel's recommendation, these things work well if you really clean the tires with a brush. For my daily drivers I use a spray tire shine from Griot's and it looks really good.
     
  10. GTS Bruce

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    Just saying. If any of these products has silicone the product will cause plastic and rubber degradation. Not something I would ever allow near any rubber or plastic product.
     
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  13. krazykarguy

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    From my personal experience, the best ones to use are the 'spray and shine' tire gloss products, but I seldom use them in this manner.

    I will always apply the product to a foam applicator pad, and then apply to the tire sidewall. After about 20 minutes, I will then buff off any excess product. The shine does not last as long this way, but I always avoid sling with this method.

    As further info, I seldom use tire shine, I prefer a clean and un-shiny sidewall. The only time I use it on my cars is when the tires are looking a little 'gray'. Maybe 1-2x per year.
     
  14. AceMaster

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    I like the Meguiar's Endurance as well
     
  15. flash32

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    I use on occasion aerospace protection from 3m ..it looks good and actually protects

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  16. LBBP

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    I just clean the tires with Adam's rubber cleaner periodically, it removes the discoloration tires can get and leaves the tire with the original matte black look. Occasionally i will spray a light coat of 303 protectant, which has a UV inhibitor, onto a clean tire more for the protection than appearance.
     
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  17. netman

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    i don't understand the need to apply tire shine products. To me this is like the shake and bake stuff. It just collects dirt and grime as the tire rolls down the road.
     
  18. tifoso2728

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    Armor-All. Apply to a cloth and then rub on sparingly. Let it dry (less than a minute) and then buff off. It looks good, protects and doesn't look "fakey" as we used to say as kids.
     
  19. 338Lapua

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    I have used a few - Zymol Tyre, Gyeon Tire and Pneu by Swissvax. The Zymol Tyre produces a very flat finish and "clean". It only last a week or so. The Pneu by Swissvax is slightly shinier than the Zymol and produces a deeper black (looks nice). The Gyeon Tire can produce a shinier look if you don't wipe it off after you apply it. After 15min or so, I wipe the tire down and it produces a nice deep black. NOt real glossy but more of a satin finish. I have found this will last a couple weeks. But with subsequent coatings you will end up applying less less.

    Overall I like the Pneu and Gyeon. The Gyeon will last longer than the Pneu but both produce a nice finish that isn't gaudy.
     
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  21. Falcon7x

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    Mudd by AMMO NY, not shinny, nice low luster, no sling.
     
  22. GTS Bruce

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    I believe armor all as well as many others are SILICONE which attacks rubber and plastics. Drys them out. Promotes cracking. Long term use is detrimental. My daily driver is a PU truck. Got rear ended lightly by another pu truck once at a stop light. Girl jumps out frantic thank god you have a truck. No damage right? Nope no damage. I'm so sorry I just finished detailing my husbands truck and I put armor on the pedals too to make it look nice and I slipped... Don't be that girl.
     
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  23. moysiuan

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    #20 moysiuan, Mar 23, 2018
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    I have tried many products, and my top pick is the VRP Dressing by Chemical Guys. http://www.chemicalguys.com/V_R_P_Super_Shine_Dressing_16_oz_p/tvd_107_16.htm

    Water based, no sling, can be removed with soap for a clean start next time you want to redo the dressing. Smells nice, and best of all can be used on interior plastics, trim, etc. You can dilute it with water for less shine, or wipe a damp rag to degloss a bit depending on the preferred look. Lasts for quite a while, maybe three weeks or so.

    Many of these preferred products indicate that they are water based, which is true but the main ingredients in all of them are siloxanes (I think polydimethyl siloxane) which are chemically altered silicones. Some also include further modified siloxane polymers. Other ingredients include polyethylene glycols and glycerines. I think these are all safe chemicals, siloxanes are used in many skin care products although there is some controversy as to how safe they actually are. Best not the eat it, but getting some on your hands is not likely to be a problem. Some water based ones also use a very light solvent to aid the spreading effect, but flash off so quickly they don"t have a chance to degrade the rubber.

    I think it is the solvent carrier in other silicone based dressings that can better bond the silicones to the tire, so they last longer. The ingredient is a dimethal silicone oil. But the bonding is in effect degrading the layer of rubber, so not sure why this stuff is even made anymore, I guess for some very long lasting has its merits. The silicone oils are cheaper than the "dry" siloxanes, the "safe" siloxanes are referred to as non migratory and will not chemically bond with the rubber.

    The oil based ones that sling due to too much product being used with inadequate drying time
    can also damage he clearcoat on eg. a urethane bumper covering as the paint has a flex agent that can react with the tire dressing/carbon black. They can also damage the clearcoat on wheels. Really, just do not use them, only dealers that don't want to dress tires frequently while cars sit in their lot probably see the merit.

    If the product is milky white (or coloured in some cases), it is water based. If it is clear it is oil and solvent based.

    So the bottom line is all the water based dressing use the same major ingredient.

    Oh and by the way, Armour All is fine, same stuff as in all the other water based formulas.
     
  24. moysiuan

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    QUOTE="moysiuan, post: 145888532, member: 25783"]I have tried many products, and my top pick is the VRP Dressing by Chemical Guys. http://www.chemicalguys.com/V_R_P_Super_Shine_Dressing_16_oz_p/tvd_107_16.htm

    Water based, no sling, can be removed with soap for a clean start next time you want to redo the dressing. Smells nice, and best of all can be used on interior plastics, trim, etc. You can dilute it with water for less shine, or wipe a damp rag to degloss a bit depending on the preferred look. Lasts for quite a while, maybe three weeks or so.

    Many of these preferred products indicate that they are water based, which is true but the main ingredients in all of them are siloxanes (I think polydimethyl siloxane) which are chemically altered silicones. Some also include further modified siloxane polymers. Other ingredients include polyethylene glycols and glycerines. I think these are all safe chemicals, siloxanes are used in many skin care products although there is some controversy as to how safe they actually are. Best not the eat it, but getting some on your hands is not likely to be a problem. Some water based ones also use a very light solvent to aid the spreading effect, but flash off so quickly they don"t have a chance to degrade the rubber.

    I think it is the solvent carrier in other silicone based dressings that can better bond the silicones to the tire, so they last longer. The ingredient is a dimethal silicone oil. But the bonding is in effect degrading the layer of rubber, so not sure why this stuff is even made anymore, I guess for some very long lasting has its merits. The silicone oils are cheaper than the "dry" siloxanes, the "safe" siloxanes are referred to as non migratory and will not chemically bond with the rubber.

    The oil based ones that sling due to too much product being used with inadequate drying time
    can also damage he clearcoat on eg. a urethane bumper covering as the paint has a flex agent that can react with the tire dressing/carbon black. They can also damage the clearcoat on wheels. Really, just do not use them, only dealers that don't want to dress tires frequently while cars sit in their lot probably see the merit.

    If the product is milky white (or coloured in some cases), it is water based. If it is clear it is oil and solvent based.

    So the bottom line is all the water based dressing use the same major ingredient.

    Oh and by the way, Armor All is fine, same stuff as in all the other water based formulas.[/QUOTE]


    Armor All invented the dressing category in the 1960's, and was originally a solvent based silicone oil formula. Bad especially for for dashboard vinyls. The oils degrade the plasticizers which embrittles the soft vinyls. When car interiors were more hard plastics and tires did not last that long the problem was not really noticed.

    They changed to the water based siloxane formula along time ago, but the product remains unfairly maligned.
     
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    Try to avoid the ‘bacon grease’ look if possible :eek:
    Just doesn’t look good
     
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