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Discussion in '360/430' started by Classiguy3, Mar 28, 2005.

  1. Classiguy3

    Classiguy3 Karting
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    wondering is there a big difference in the 355 spider compared to the 355 GTS targa. I have had convertibles in the past but not a targa top.

    Also how bad are the mechanisms in the 355. I have heard horror stories about them.

    thanks
    Leo
     
  2. lapeter

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    Having owned a 1996 355 spider for two years and lowering and raising the roof over 300 times, I never had a problem. It's a great car.
     
  3. RossoCorsaItaly

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    While we're on the topic how is wind noise around higher speeds with the top up?

    Regards,
    Kevin
     
  4. lapeter

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    Up to 120 mph it was not a problem.
     
  5. Classiguy3

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    Im presently driving a convertible so I think it would be a bit difficult to jump into a coupe instead of an open top car. I was looking a the GTS but there are very few mint examples compared to the spiders.
     
  6. vdavie

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    Just sold my 355 GTS and can tell you it was great to have the targa top. i now have a 360 spider and thats even better. I just didnt like the look of the 355 with the top up.

    vince
     
  7. Classiguy3

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    thats my dillema..I love the rear lines of the GTS and GTB..but the spider seems like its missing the right curves..Im undecided..
     
  8. vincent355

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    i agree. the 360 looks good as a spider with the top down. The 355 does not. IMO
     
  9. 911Fan

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    Funny, I think just the opposite -- I prefer the 355 Spider and the 360 Coupe. I haven't been able to put my finger on why I don't like the 360 Spider that much -- maybe it's the lumps behind the headrests. The 355 Spider is a much cleaner design.

    Aesthetics can be so subjective! :)
     
  10. vincent355

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    apparently we can agree to disagree. :)
     
  11. Steve R

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    Yes, Aesthetics can be subjective.....but in this case YOUR JUST PLAIN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

    I've heard this popular opinion as well: 355 as a spider, 360 as a coupe. Fact is, all Ferrari's are freakin' beautiful....when it comes to looks, style, performance and driving thrill...Ferrari is pretty much unbeatable.

    The 355's convertible top has often received poor reviews. Most of those negatives comments are simply misinformed people: If the pneumatic fluid is maintained, the electric switches aligned properly and the top stored in the upright position AND the top used frequently.....THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS!

    My top gets a bit noisy around 140 mph, some kind of sound ripples coming from the fabric. This problem can be avoided by simply turning the stereo up louder.

    I LOVE the convertible....the 355 is one of the best-ever looking convertibles ever made. Oddly enough, I actually don't feel the openess while driving. Just a thought: as I drove my old VW Karmann Ghia convertible, the windshield was literally about 15" in front of my face. I'm only 5' 8", but the windshield of the 355 is just a few inches from my forehead....you don't really have that totally-open feel...BUT WHO CARES: you get to hear that exhaust purring!!!!!!!

    Make no mistake, the owner of a 355 spider is a very lucky person!!!! :)
     
  12. Steve R

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    Oh....get this:

    When I first bought my 355 I was not totally familar with the proceedure for lowering the top. I took a friend for a drive (the very next day after bringing it home) and I could not get the top down. As it turns out, it was a simple matter of merely having the emergency parking brake on to activate the system....that's it. Later at home I yanked the brake on and everything worked perfect!!!

    Nevertheless....my "friend" proceeded to tell everyone how the top on the 355 is a piece of junk and how my new car already had a problem that was bound to be super-ultra expensive...cause, you know: it's a Ferrari and those things are maintenance nightmares and Steve's new car already has a problem the day after he got it!!!!!!!!

    Ignorant people can be so....well...ignorant!
     
  13. Jas

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    LOL....and it's precisely the "lumps" behind the headrests on the 360 Spider that I like so much :)

    By the way, why do some spell it Spider and others Spyder?

    Jas
     
  14. shin

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    The correct one is spider. Back in the old days, the top mechanism somewhat resembles a spider with its legs. :)
     
  15. spidermanUK

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    The facts are, that it is Spider and not Spyder because of an official statement by National Federation of Body makers in 1924 in Milan (Italy), that declared the word to be written that way. The "y" was not in the Italian alphabet since it was a fascist and nationalist period. It's, as you know, the equivalent for "roadster", "speedster" or "two-seater". Spyder comes from a kind of horse-cab manufactured by Holmes in Dublin (Ireland), developing an idea born in GB in 1860 as a mix of the Tilbury-type cab (two seats, two wheels) with the phaeton (four seats). Holmes named his cabs "Spyders", as they resembled "Spiders" for their large and light wheels and the body (very light) suspended among them. The Spyder had two "main" seats (with a "cabriolet" cover)+ 2 "emergency" seats on the rear, for the "valets". So, when that decision was taken in 1924, they thought to oppose to "Anglicanism" but, as a matter of fact, they "corrected" Mr. Holmes!
     
  16. ghost

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    Beautiful - thanks Clive.
     
  17. spidermanUK

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    Thank you for your thanks.
    I would love to take credit for the full content of my previous post, but modesty, and the sure fact that someone will recognise it, precludes me from doing so.

    It was a straight forward cut and paste from an Alfa Romeo forum!

    Still makes interesting reading though!
     
  18. Kevallino

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    355 looks great in all three body styles - I am an open car guy so dig the spider, but also really love the aesthetics of the GTS so that you get the flying buttress C-pillars but still get to take the top off. I'd struggle to have a road car that didn't at least have a sunroof!! Noise wise, on my 348 the top doesn't fit too flash anymore, so the best trim for running seems to be top down and windows up - even with the Tubi/Hyperflows you can have a reasonable conversation at cruise although it will get difficult upon acceleration...

    Also, love the history of the "spider" - it never ceases to amaze me how lexicon develops over time.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  19. alanhenson

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    My top on my 99 355 works perfect. It's never even hiccuped. You have to have it set right though for it to go down.
     
  20. Jas

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    Thanks guys......and there I thought it was a simple question :)

    Jas
     
  21. LetsJet

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    Mine has always worked fine and I really enjoy the convertable experience. It's all personal preference........
     
  22. LZeitgeist

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    I'm a convertible nut - always have been, probably always will be.

    In my opinion, the 355 Spider is THE most perfect example of 'sports car', followed closely by the 348 Spider.

    Saw a beautiful yellow/black 355 at a dealership last weekend... I couldn't take my eyes off it. Yum.
     
  23. markymark360f1

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    I like both the 355 and the 360, Im a fan of warranties thus I purchased the 360 spider. if you live in a sunny area convertible is the way to go!

    mm
     
  24. scycle2020

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    i had a 355 spider and the top mechanism on my car was terrible...a stupid design...got stuck a few times ...and i was told my friend, who is head mechanic at a f car dealership, that the 355 spider top was not best...the 360 spider had a much better top and mechanism...actually made for ferrari by the germans...worked very well...actually there was a post by 355 spider owners a few month s back where several owners said they just have up on the top and kept it down all the time.....if your s has been flawless, consider yourself one of the lucky ones
     
  25. andrew911

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    That's funny- when Porsche was developing the 911 cabriolet in the early 1980's, they had englishmen come in to design the top :)
     

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