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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by synchro, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. synchro

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    I remember a discussion here re a Dino pouch on Ebay for $7K. I dident read the details
     
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    forgot to mention, that this pouch has a lot of other rare daytona itmes too, so that should be discounted out.

    based on ebay sales and condition, my guess would be a basic pouch with the basic books would sell for anywhere from $5k on up.
     
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    This website has individual bits and pieces for sale:

    http://www.************.com/

    Gives a bit of an indication what individual pieces can fetch.
     
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  8. synchro

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    Here's one cuurrently at over $10,000.00 and 6 days to go in the auction:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320113899239&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MT:1

    Complete manuals and pouch for 1972 Ferrari 365 GTB4 Daytona # 16501. This is probably one of the very few complete sets out there. What makes this one unique, is that it come with the original purchase agreement and the temporary registration. This car was bought new on 4/19/1975 from Ron Tonkin in Oregon. All items in this package are original to this car. This Package includes:

    1- Original leather pouch with side pocket in pristine condition.

    2- Original 365GTB/4 Parts Book 70/72 revision Sept 1972. Pristine.

    3- Original 365GTB/4 Owners Manual 74/1973. Pristine.

    4- Original 365GTB/4 Additional Instructions USA 47/71. Pristine.

    5- Original Ferrari/Shell dust cloth. Pristine.

    6- Original 365GTB/4 Cosumer information booklet. Pristine.

    7- Original 1972 Sales and Service Dealer Directory. Pristine.

    8- Original Waranty booklet for 16501. Pristine.

    9- Original Becker Mexico Cassette stereo manuals and warranty card. Pristine.

    10- Original clock tag. Pristine.

    11- Feb/March 1991 issue of Cavallino . Pristine.

    12- Original Bodywork spare parts catalogue. Hanwritten in Italian. Excellent condition.

    13- Original 365GTB/4 Chassis Service Manual. Italian and English. Watermark on last 4 pages.

    14- Original purchase Agreement for 16501 from Ron Tonkin.

    15- Original Temporary Registration card for 16501.

     
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    well, first of qall, "significantly less" is the starting price. one can safely assume that the bids will jump greatly near the end. to know it is a "no reserve auction" brings more bids. i would assume the waters were being tested.

    this set has far more than the average set, especially if you own the car in question. who ever has this car, regardless of price, this is a steal.

    if i was able to find an equivelant set for one of my dino's, i would be more than happy to over pay as well.
     
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    The first picture on this thread is my pouch from 16793, and I didn't include pictures of the original window sticker, original clock tag (not really a pouch item, they came on the clock), yellow cloth (glove box item), etc. The bottom line is that these Document pouches with all the goodies are doing North of $12K these days and will probably go higher as the cars continue to rise in value.

    What is interesting about the eBay Document Pouch is that it is a 4cam/early Daytona Pouch (outside pocket, different lining). 16501 should have had the pouch shown in the first post. My guess is that since the car sold so late in the game (1975), the dealer probably scrounged around the dealership looking for stuff for the car and came up with an earlier warranty card, earlier Pouch, Dino Directory, etc. My document package has the same type of earlier Guarantee Card instead of the 1973 blue Warranty Booklet. But, it is signed by the dealer and has the original owner's name and address in the book.

    Steve
     
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  13. dinogts

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    "IT ISN"T CHEAP"????????

    At $19,475, I'd suggest THAT is an understatement.

    Mark
     
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    You must be absolutely bonkers mad to pay that sort of money.
    Ten of these will get you a car!
     
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    More like 30 for a Coupe and 70 for Spyder after last weekend's Auction.

    Steve
     
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    Whoops, I meant 15 for a Coupe.

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    the problem with so many of these pouches are they aren't common anymore.

    most cars that come up for sale (regardless of model), don't have books. whether these are worth that much or not is hard to say. forget all the arguements against, these book are hard to find. more often than not, the books that come up on ebay are from former owners.

    i think prices are crazy, however, the number of book sets that have come up over the last three+ years, are diminishing. although prices are going up, and we question values, i remember when dino book sets came up about two times a month. now we are lucky if they show up once every 3 months. the same has to be true for even more rare books like 60's ferrari's
     
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    Closed at $4k, seems these are dropping
     
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    Does anyone know where this ended up? Id like to buy it
     
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    Was that optional of why do some cars have it?

    Thanks
     
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